I want to create a windows service, and I am not sure whether to write it on c sharp or c++. I wander if you create the service in c#, do I need to have the whole .net framework installed on the client?
If I do it in c++, as a clr application, it will use the .net framework and it will be managed code. Does that mean that the .net framework has to be installed in the client running the windows services?
Is the CLR installed in all pc?, i mean, if I write a .net server (c# or c++), is the clr already installed in the client, do I need to have something in mind when deplying the windows service to a client machine
Many thanks for your help
Any code that uses .Net requires the .Net framework installed on the machine where it has to run. So, regardless of whether it's C# or C++, if you're using .Net framework, you'll need to have the framework installed.
.Net framework comes pre-installed with Windows Vista and Windows 7 too, I believe. You can check the list of OS that have .Net framework pre-installed (anyway, it's not that big).
CLR is installed in all machines that have .Net framework, because CLR is part of .Net framework.
So, if you're installing a .Net-based Windows Service, here are your checkpoints:
Check if the system has .Net Framework (that is compatible with your service).
If not, then install the .Net Framework first.
Else, go ahead and install the service. Start it and you're good.
Managed C++ requires the .NET framework to be installed on the client's machine, as does an application written in C#.
The .NET Framework is installed on Windows Vista, and Windows 7 (2.0 and 3.0 respectively) however can be removed by the user.
It is best to check if they've got it installed and allow them to download/install it as part of your application's installation process.
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i am developing WPF application in visual studio and using .NET 3.5.
does the application fits Windows7 and Windows8 OS with no .NET framework additional installation?
do i need to add .NET 3.5 installation to setup project?
In Windows 7 .NET framework 3.5 is part of the operating system so all machines should have it.
In Windows 8 or windows 8.1 .NET framework 3.5 is NOT automatically installed (though all machines that are upgraded from win 7 -> win 8 should have it).
To run apps that require the .NET Framework 3.5 on Windows 8 or later, you must enable version 3.5 on your computer. There are two ways you can do this: by installing or running an app that requires the .NET Framework 3.5 (that is, by installing the .NET Framework 3.5 on demand), or by enabling the .NET Framework 3.5 in Control Panel. Both options require an Internet connection.
If an app requires the .NET Framework 3.5, but doesn't find that version enabled on your computer, it displays a message box, either during installation, or when you run the app for the first time. In the message box, choose Install this feature to enable the .NET Framework 3.5.
The above require an internet connection. If this is not possible you will have to include the .exe files of .NET 3.5 in your distribution
however as MSDN states:
The .NET Framework 4.5 and its point releases are backward-compatible
with apps that were built with earlier versions of the .NET Framework.
In other words, apps and components built with previous versions will
work without modification on the .NET Framework 4.5. However, by
default, apps run on the version of the common language runtime for
which they were developed, so you may have to provide a configuration
file to enable your app to run on the .NET Framework 4.5
So build your project for 3.5 and just deploy it to windows 8 machines. It should run, but its not the "best" environment for the app. The "best" would be to have .NET 3.5 installed.
I'm writing a C# app (in VS 2008). If I target the .Net 3.5 framework, will it run on Windows XP and above? Will XP users potentially have to download a .Net upgrade?
UPDATE
If the app is intended for business / corporate environments do you think it's pretty safe to target 3.5 rather than 2.0?
Only Windows 7 and newer will come with .NET 3.5 (SP1) pre-installed; Windows XP and Vista users, while able to run apps built on .NET 3.5, have to download and install it first in order to use your app.
I think the latest service packs of XP and Vista include .NET 3.5, though.
If the app is intended for business / corporate environments do you think it's pretty safe to target 3.5 rather than 2.0?
Not if the client machines are not able to upgrade or install the 3.5 Framework.
It's not safe to assume they already have the framework. It is realistic, however, to have them install the framework. They probably have it, and if they don't then they should get it if you're writing an app in 3.5.
I have built an application in .NET framework 3.5, in C#.
I want to know whether it will run on a machine having Windows XP Home Basic
Service pack 3.
Thank You,
Bibhu
You must install the .NET Framework 3.5 on your Windows XP Home machine.
This will allow you to run standard applications built in C# or .NET in general.
However, you will not be able to serve web applications from the operating system using IIS, because IIS is not supported by XP Home.
It's hard to say about your specific application (as it may have specific OS requirements depending on how you made it), but for .NET 3.5 applications in general, yes, they will run just fine.
Compatibility Matrix: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8z6watww(v=VS.100).aspx
I have tried this many times mostly on my clients who owns internet shops and all I did was install .net framework on each computers and then install the application. It should work fine.
Install .NET Framework 3.5 on the machine you intend to use for running your .net application, then your application will run.
If I compile a simple(no additional libraries or assemblies) c# application, can I assume it will run on any new windows 7 machine natively or do I have to worry about end users having .Net or other libraries installed?
Windows 7 includes the .NET Framework 3.5.1 as an OS component.
This means you will get:
.NET Framework 2.0 SP2
3.0 SP2
3.5 SP1
some post 3.5 SP1 bug fixes
However, if you're using newer versions of .NET, and if you're using libraries that don't get shipped with the above, then you still need to consider packaging these up in an MSI/installer.
This page on Wikipedia has a good summary:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework#Versions
If this is anything more than a "quick and dirty" app, or unless you work in an area where you know exactly what the target machines look like (i.e. a corporate environment with a locked down OS image) then I'd suggest you look at building an installer and deal with pulling down the pre-requisites as appropriate. (WiX is my recommended way of doing that).
http://wix.sourceforge.net/
And WiX questions are tagged here on SO...
https://stackoverflow.com/tags/wix/
Windows 7 comes preinstalled with .NET 3.5.1 which includes 3.5 SP1, so unless you need features of .NET 4 it should work just fine.
Windows 7 ships with .Net 3.5, so, if you this .net version or lower, your application should be able to run on any Windows 7 installation
You need the appropriate .Net framework installed to match what your C# program was written with. If you don't have the correct framework, download it from microsoft.com.
Hey guys - I just wrote an app using c# and ready to deploy it. Never deployed a c# app before.
I deployed it and VC# outputted a .application file, application folder, and an installer. One of my users ran the installer (Windows 7) and was prompted to download/install the .net framework - which took upwards of 10 minutes. This is not acceptable for how simple my app is.
Moreover, I will need this app to be able to run on mac osx and linux if possible. Should I have wrote this in Java instead (poor planning on my part). What are my options?
C# is compiled to bytecode that runs on the CLR, the virtual machine that's at the core of the .NET framework. So yes, you need the .NET framework to run that.
Most current versions of Windows (XP, Vista, 7, etc.) come with some version of the .NET framework pre-installed, so your users don't have to download and install it. However, you might have used a version that's not already installed on the computers of (some of) your users.
For Linux and Mac OS X there is Mono, which is an open source implementation of .NET, but it does not contain everything that Microsoft's .NET contains, so your program might not work fully on Mono.
Using Java is not a real solution in the sense that your users would need to download and install the JRE (Java Runtime Environment) to run Java programs, very similar to the .NET framework. An advantage if you'd have used Java, is that Java is much more cross-platform compatible than .NET (Microsoft has no real interest in making .NET run on anything else than Windows).
.NET apps require the .NET framework. Java apps require the JRE. Your app is simple because .NET has done a lot of the work for you. A lot of companies write desktop apps in C++, but you will have to be mindful of cross-platform issues.
Yes, with any language that compiles to run on a managed runtime (.NET or Mono CLR, Java JVM) you will need to have that runtime installed. A C# application can compile to run on Windows on the .NET CLR, or on all the platforms you mention to run on the Mono runtime instead. Alternatively, a Java application would compile to run on the Java JRE, which is also compatible with all the platforms you mention.
So with either language there is potentially this extra installation overhead, and with either language you can achieve what you want.
You'll need to have .NET installed on your client's system in order to use your application.
As for running cross-platform - depending on how your Application is written, this can be simple or difficult.
You may want to look at Silverlight. This is directly supported on OS X and works on Linux via Moonlight.
Another alternative is to use Mono to run your .NET application on other platforms.
A C# app will need an implementation of the CLR (.NET) running on the local machine in order to run. A Java app will need an implementation of the JVM so it is really no different. On Windows, I would expect most people to have a .NET install.
Take a look at the Mono project as far as running it on Linux and Mac:
http://mono-project.com/Main_Page
One thing you can consider is using an older version of the .NET framework to ensure that the greatest number of people have it installed. I would use .NET 3.5 or even 2.0 if you do not need fancy new features. That would have been installed already on Windows 7 for example.
Since the Windows 7 user had to download the framework I assume you are currently targeting .NET 4 which means you must be using Visual Studio 2010 (or an express version). Here is a link that tells you how to target a different version of the framework:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb398202.aspx
One quick note about Mono, it is an excellent cross-platform option but it does not support the Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) GUI framework at this point. You will either have to use Windows Forms or create different front-ends for different platforms.
If you want to create a Linux GUI (also available on Windows and Mac) you can try GTK#:
http://www.mono-project.com/GtkSharp
For a Mac native GUI you can check out MonoMac:
http://mjhutchinson.com/journal/2010/06/09/monomac_in_monodevelop
An excellent IDE for cross-platform .NET development is MonoDevelop (it will read your VC# project files):
http://monodevelop.com/
Like Java, .Net languages need a runtime installed. The full .Net framework is sometimes too big for small applications, so there is a smaller version of it call the compact framework with a smaller footprint that will install and download faster. You can read about it at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa497273.aspx. As noted by other answers most current versions of Windows come with various versions of .Net framework, so this installation may not be needed for every user.
As far as your cross platform needs go Mono allows for running .Net applications on Linux, I am not sure about running them on OSX. My assumption is you can not. Unfortunately your cross platform requirements made .Net a bad choice, and you should have gone with Java.
Other people gave you complicated answers. Well here's my simple answer. .NET framework is needed to run .NET applications and so do Java need JVM (as MCain said). Starting with Windows Vista, Microsoft includes .NET Framework built inside Windows. And in addition, .NET have versions, from 1.0 to 4.0. With Vista and Windows 7, .NET 3.5 is installed by default. I think your app is targeted for .NET 4.0 which is why a Windows 7 user needed to install .NET framework. For me, if I have to write a simple program, I'll use .NET 2.0 (later version = larger libraries, etc) so that my users (if they are Vista or Windows 7) don't have to install .NET again to run my software. You can choose which version of .NET you will target from New Project Window in Visual Studio.
You can change the target framework in the properties tab. If you start a project in VS2008 the default is .net 3.5 and for VS2010 it is .net 4.0. If you don't need the advanced features you can change your target back to 2.0 which should be available on most computers by now (I would guess far over 90%). Be sure to remove dependencies which are not available in 2.0 (like System.Linq, System.DataSet.Extensions) and the accociated imports (But the compiler will tell you what to do).