I understand there are many questions related to this, so I'll be very specific.
I create Console application with two instructions. Create a List with some large capacity and fill it with sample data, and then clear that List or make it equal to null.
What I want to know is if there is a way for me to know/measure/profile while debugging or not, if the actual memory used by the application after the list was cleared and null-ed is about the same as before the list was created and populated. I know for sure that the application has disposed of the information and the GC has finished collecting, but can I know for sure how much memory my application would consume after this?
I understand that during the process of filling the list, a lot of memory is allocated and after it's been cleared that memory may become available to other process if it needs it, but is it possible to measure the real memory consumed by the application at the end?
Thanks
Edit: OK, here is my real scenario and objective. I work on a WPF application that works with large amounts of data read through USB device. At some point, the application allocates about 700+ MB of memory to store all the List data, which it parses, analyzes and then writes to the filesystem. When I write the data to the filesystem, I clear all the Lists and dispose all collections that previously held the large data, so I can do another data processing. I want to know that I won't run into performance issues or eventually use up all memory. I'm fine with my program using a lot of memory, but I'm not fine with it using it all after few USB processings.
How can I go around controlling this? Are memory or process profilers used in case like this? Simply using Task Manager, I see my application taking up 800 MB of memory, but after I clear the collections, the memory stays the same. I understand this won't go down unless windows needs it, so I was wondering if I can know for sure that the memory is cleared and free to be used (by my application or windows)
It is very hard to measure "real memory" usage on Windows if you mean physical memory. Most likley you want something else like:
Amount of memory allocated for the process (see Zooba's answer)
Amount of Managed memory allocated - CLR Profiler, or any other profiler listed in this one - Best .NET memory and performance profiler?
What Task Manager reports for your application
Note that it is not necessary that after garbage collection is finished amount of memory allocated for your process (1) changes - GC may keep allocated memory for future managed allocations (this behavior is not specific to CLR for memory allcation - most memory allocators keep free blocks for later usage unless forced to release it by some means). The http://blogs.msdn.com/b/maoni/ blog is excelent source for details on GC/memory.
Process Explorer will give you all the information you need. Specifically, you will probably be most interested in the "private bytes history" graph for your process.
Alternatively, it is possible to use Window's Performance Monitor to track your specific application. This should give identical information to Process Explorer, though it will let you write the actual numbers out to a separate file.
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I personaly use SciTech Memory Profiler
It has a real time option that you can use to see your memory usage. It has help me find a number of problems with leaking memory.
Try ANTS Profiler. Its not free but you can try the trial version.
http://www.red-gate.com/products/dotnet-development/ants-performance-profiler/
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I am having problems figuring out the source of a memory problem in a complex C# based Windows service. Unfortunately the problem does not occur all the time and I still don't exactly know the conditions which cause it to happen. Sometimes when I check the system ressources used by the service, it takes up multiple gigabytes of memory until the point where it throws OutOfMemory-exceptions everywhere because there isn't any memory left.
I have a paid version of .NET Memory Profiler available but so far it has been useless because the whole system becomes slow and unstable when the service uses too much memory so I cannot attach the memory profiler to the application.
The solution of the application consists of more than 30 individual projects and hundreds of thousands lines of code so there is no way for me to find the source of the problem by simply looking through the source code.
So far the only thing I was able to do is creating a memory dump (.dmp file) of the process while it was using a lot of memory. Is there a way to analyze this dump or anything else that would help me narrow down the source of this problem?
If you could identify some central methods in the main classes of your legacy projects and you have some kind of logging already in place, you could log the total memory (managed and unmanaged, if your application opens such resources) by calling
Process.GetCurrentProcess().PrivateMemorySize64
At least that would give you a feeling if the memory problem is "diffuse", e. g. by not release objects for garbage collection etc., if if the memory problem occurs just in certain use cases (jump in memory consumption, if a certain action happens). Then you could nail it down by more logging and investigating the corresponding code sections. Its tedious, but when you can not use code instrumentation as you have said, I find it effective. If you want to analyze a specific situation with a memory dump, you can use WinDbg for analyzing it, but that takes some effort for the first time to learn, and would be a separate topic (see https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/debugger/debugger-download-tools).
I have a C#.NET service running in production. The service functions as a TCP server to which clients register and make requests against. In looking at the Task Manager, it appears to be leaking about 10MB/day. I don't seem to notice these in dev (perhaps because of far less traffic and client activity). In searching around I've read that the Task Manager can be seriously wrong, but I'm not sure how accurate this is or in what circumstances the TM would display incorrect information.
To solve this problem I need to more closely monitor memory consumption. The problem is that the leak only seems to appear in production, where the deployed service was built for Release. Also since it's a service that can't be run directly be VS with an attached profiler/debugging, I'm not sure how to best pinpoint the problem with something more precise than TM.
Any group wisdom would be much appreciated, thanks.
EDIT:
I've added perfmon counters for the privates bytes of the service (7MB to start out) as well as CLR mem in all heaps (30MB to start out)
Task manager says the total memory to be ~37MB so this seems to make sense
The first part of this is to let the service go for a day and check out my counters again.
If my private bytes get huge but CLR mem is roughly static this would indicate an unmanaged leak. If both get huge then it's a managed leak.
Thanks guys.
Your first task is figuring out if the process is leaking memory. You can do this with perfmon measuring the Private Bytes
http://www.goldstarsoftware.com/papers/CapturingVirtualBytesToALogFile.pdf
If the graph is consistently rising (for say half an hour ) you have a memory leak. You can then use other counters to figure out if this is a .NET leak (.NET memory) though this is unlikely. I find that in most of these cases, there is a COM component that is being invoked but not released.
If you truly have a memory leak (and this isn't just variable memory usage)- the process will shutdown with an out of memory exception after running for a while.
You need one of the below MemoryProfilers in order to monitor it;
http://www.jetbrains.com/profiler/
http://www.red-gate.com/products/dotnet-development/ants-memory-profiler/
There are other choices but these are very capable and you can profile remote application's memory with them (at least JetBrains's solution handles that)
Follow this guide: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/tess/archive/2008/03/25/net-debugging-demos-lab-7-memory-leak.aspx
It goes over exactly what you're describing, a memory leak in production. As was mentioned you have to first determine whether it's unmanaged code or managed code that's leaking using perfmon and Private Bytes.
In general make sure for networking objects you're wrapping them in using statements so that they're properly disposed.
A workflow I often use for managed memory leaks is to start the server on a test machine, hit it with a known amount of connections (say 123,456 connections). Then take a memory snapshot by going to task manager and right clicking on the process name and selecting 'create dump'. Open this dump with WinDBG and SOS and run the command !dumpheap -stat. Look for objects that have a multiple of 123,456 instances. Should these objects still be in memory? If not run a !gcroot on an instance of those objects to find why it's still in memory.
Get a dump of the memory when its in a leak state using the Task Manager right click on the process and select create dump file. You can also use ProcDump which gives you more options.
Use SOS Extensions in either WinDebug or Visual Studio to inspect the memory.
I'm creating a C# based Windows service that will run 24x7 for months on end. I'd like to be able to track general memory usage of my service. It doesn't need to be exact down to the byte. A general amount allocated will suffice. I'll be monitoring this for trends in memory consumption. Is GC.GetTotalMemory() an appropriate way to monitor this?
I'm aware of Performance Monitor and the use of counters. However, this service is going to be running on at least 12 different servers. I don't want to track PM on 12 different servers. The service will persist all performance and memory usage information, from all instances, to a central DB to avoid this, and for easier analysis.
Only if it's a purely managed-memory application. If any of it is calling off to unmanaged code, the memory allocated there will never be registered with the garbage collector (unless someone remembers to call GC.AddMemoryPressure).
GC.GetTotalMemory retrieves the amount of memory thought to be allocated. It only knows about memory allocated by the managed components, unless you call GC.AddMemoryPressure to tell it about other memory allocated.
You can get a better idea of the real amount of memory allocated by reading Process.WorkingSet64, Process.VirtualMemory64, and other such properties of the Process class. Just call Process.GetCurrentProcess, and then get what you need.
That said, you're probably better off using the performance counters.
This isn't a direct answer to your question, but was prompted by your intent to keep your service running 24x7 for months.
I would be very aware of heap fragmentation. See this article for an explanation
Use performance counters. You can set them up to log to file.
Alternatively you can read performance counters in your code, and save out the data to a central location.
How I can get the actual memory used in my C# application?
Task Manager shows different metrics.
Process Explorer shows increased usage of private bytes.
Performance counter (perfmon.msc) showed different metrics
when I used .NET memory profiler, it showed most of the memory is garbage collected and only few Live bytes.
I do not know which to believe.
Memory usage is somewhat more complicated than displaying a single number or two. I suggest you take a look at Mark Russinovich's excellent post on the different kinds of counters in Windows.
.NET only complicates matters further. A .NET process is just another Windows process, so obviously it will have all the regular metrics, but in addition to that the CLR acts as a memory manager for the managed application. So depending on the point of view these numbers will vary.
The CLR effectively allocates and frees virtual memory in big chunks on behalf of the .NET application and then hands out bits of memory to the application as needed. So while your application may use very little memory at a given point in time this memory may or may not have been released to the OS.
On top of that the CLR itself uses memory to load IL, compile IL to native code, store all the type information and so forth. All of this adds to the memory footprint of the process.
If you want to know how much memory your managed application uses for data, the Bytes in all heaps counter is useful. Private bytes may be used as a somewhat rough estimate for the application's memory usage on the process level.
You may also want to check out these related questions:
Reducing memory usage of .NET applications?
How to detect where a Memory Leak is?
If you are using VS 2010 you can use Visual Studio 2010 Profiler.
This tool can create very informative reports for you.
If you want to know approximately how many bytes are allocated on the GC heap (ignoring memory used by the runtime, the JIT compiler, etc.), you can call GC.GetTotalMemory. We've used this when tracking down memory leaks.
Download VADump (If you do not have it yet)
Usage: VADUMP.EXE -sop [PID]
Well, what is "actual memory used in my C# application" ?
Thanks to Virtual memory and (several) Memory management layers in Windows and the CLR, this is a rather complicated question.
From the sources you mention the CLR profiler will give you the most detailed breakdown, I would call that the most accurate.
But there is no 'single number' answer, the question whether Application A use more or less memory than B can be impossible to answer.
So what do you actually want to know? Do you have a concrete performance problem to solve?
I am working on a web app using C# and asp.net I have been receiving an out of memory exception. What the app does is read a bunch of records(products) from a data source, could be hundreds/thousands, processes those records through settings in a wizard and then updates a different data source with the processes product information. Although there are multiple DB classes, right now all the logic is in one big class. The only reason for this, is all the information has to do with one thing, a product. Would it help the memory if I divided my app into different classes?? I don't think it would because if I divided the business logic into two classes, both of the classes would remain alive the entire time sending messages to each other, and so I don't know how this would help. I guess my other solution would be to find out what's sucking up all the memory. Is there a good tool you could recommend??
Thanks
Are you using datareaders to stream through your data? (to avoid loading too much into memory)
My gut is telling me this is a trivial issue to fix, don't pump datatables with 1 million records, work through tables one row at a time, or in small batches ... Release and dispose objects when you are done with them. (Example: don't have static List<Customer> allCustomers = AllCustomers())
Have a development rule that ensures no one reads tables into memory if there are more than X amount of rows involved.
If you need a tool to debug this look at .net memory profiler or windbg with the sos extension both will allow you to sniff through your your managed heaps.
Another note is, if you care about maintainability and would like to reduce your defect count, get rid of the SuperDuperDoEverything class and model information correctly in a way that is better aligned with your domain. The SuperDuperDoEverything class is a bomb waiting to explode.
Also note that you may not actually be running out of memory. What happens is that .NET goes to look for contiguous blocks of memory, and if it doesn't find any, it throws an OOM - even if you have plenty of total memory to cover the request.
Someone referenced both Perfmon and WinDBG. You could also setup adplus to capture a memory dump on crash - I believe the syntax is adplus -crash -iis. Once you have the memory dump, you can do something like:
.symfix C:\symbols
.reload
.loadby sos mscorwks
!dumpheap -stat
And that will give you an idea for what your high-memory objects are.
And of course, check out Tess Fernandez's excellent blog, for example this article on Memory Leaks with XML Serializers and how to troubleshoot them.
If you are able to repro this in your dev environment, and you have VS Team Edition for Developers, there are memory profilers built right in. Just launch a new performance session, and run your app. It will spit out a nice report of what's hanging around.
Finally, make sure your objects don't define a destructor. This isn't C++, and there's nothing deterministic about it, other than it guarantees your object will survive a round of Garbage Collection since it has to be placed in the finalizer queue, and then cleaned up the next round.
a very basic thing you might want to try is, restart visual studio (assuming you are using it) and see if the same thing happens, and yes releasing objects without waiting for garbage collector is always a good practice.
to sum it up,
release objects
close connections
and you can always try this,
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc337887.aspx
I found the problem. While doing my loop I had a collection that wasn't being cleared and so data just keep being added to it.
Start with Perfmon; There is a number of counters for GC related info. More than likely you are leaking memory(otherwise the GC would be deleting objects), meaning you are still referencing data structures that are no longer needed.
You should split into multiple classes anyways, just for the sake of a sane design.
Are you closing your DB connections? If you are reading into files, are you closing/releasing them once you are done reading/writing? Same goes for other objects.
You could cycle your class objects routinely just to release memory.