Ok, i have problem in C#. In my script Threading.Sleep() cause lag, i think i'm doing something wrong, this is part of source:
case 2:
{
mouse_event(MOUSEEVENTF_LEFTDOWN, Pos.X, Pos.Y, 0, 0);
mouse_event(MOUSEEVENTF_LEFTUP, Pos.X, Pos.Y, 0, 0);
SendKeys.Send(textBox1.Text);
Thread.Sleep(300);
SendKeys.Send("{ENTER}");
break;
}
I want to send text, wait for 300 milliseconds and send enter, but i just receive lag for that time and everything is done without waiting.
Maybe there is something alternative to it?
What do you mean by lag? In this case without having much context it looks like you are blocking the main thread which it what then locks up your application for the duration of Sleep(). You also said you want to sleep for 300 milliseconds but you have 1000 passed to the function. Use something like a BackgroundWorker to put the logic for sending the text in a background thread so you don't block the UI while it's happening.
What do you mean by getting lag? I'm guessing this is how you are describing the time that your code is spending sleeping.
Perhaps you might want to look at a Timer class [0] that you can then bind the later code to as an event.
[0] Three timer classes are available described here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc164015.aspx. I tend to use the System.Timers.Timer class.
Edit in response to comment:
You need to think about what you mean by "do nothing". Doing nothing includes not updating the UI or anything. Literally do nothing. I'm assuming this is what you are describing as lag. To get around this there are the two methods described in the two answers. Both ultimately involve using threads so that the main thread can continue to allow the UI functionality can happen while your secondary thread can do work.
My method would involve a timer. When you want the program to stop for a bit you create a timer with an event that will fire at the end of your pause. That event then calls the method you want to run at the end of that time. This may require a bit of refactoring of your code.
The other method involves spawning a separate that your other code can run in. Becuase this is a secondary thread sleeping this will not effect the responsiveness of the rest of your application, just of that one thread so it shouldn't matter. This may well be the easiest way of doing things.
One thing is for sure though that if you aren't really very comfortable or familiar with how multiple threads in one application works then you might want to do some general reading first.
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Let's say I have a method that I run in a separate thread via Task.Factory.StartNew().
This method reports so many progress (IProgress) that it freezes my GUI.
I know that simply reducing the number of reports would be a solution, like reporting only 1 out of 10 but in my case, I really want to get all reports and display them in my GUI.
My first idea was to queue all reports and treat them one by one, pausing a little bit between each of them.
Firstly: Is it a good option?
Secondly: How to implement that? Using a timer or using some kind of Task.Delay()?
UPDATE:
I'll try to explain better. The progress sent to the GUI consists of geocoordinates that I display on a map. Displaying each progress one after another provide some kind of animation on the map. That's why I don't want to skip any of them.
In fact, I don't mind if the method that I execute in another thread finishes way before the animation. All I want, is to be sure that all points have been displayed for at least a certain amount of time (let's say 200 ms).
Sounds like the whole point of having the process run in a separate thread is wasted if this is the result. As such, my first recommendation would be to reduce the number of updates if possible.
If that is out of the question, perhaps you could revise the data you are sending as part of each update. How large, and how complex is the object or data-structure used for reporting? Can performance be improved by reducing it's complexity?
Finally, you might try another approach: What if you create a third thread that just handles the reporting, and delivers it to your GUI in larger chunks? If you let your worker-thread report it's status to this reporter-thread, then let the reporter thread report back to your main GUI-thread only occasionally (e.g. every 1 in 10, as you suggest yourself above, bur then reporting 10 chunks of data at once), then you won't call on your GUI that often, yet you'll still be able to keep all the status data from the processing, and make it available in the GUI.
I don't know how viable this will be for your particular situation, but it might be worth an experiment or two?
I have many concerns regarding your solution, but I can't say for sure which one can be a problem without code samples.
First of all, Stephen Cleary in his StartNew is Dangerous article points out the real problem with this method with using it with default parameters:
Easy enough for the simple case, but let’s consider a more realistic example:
private void Form1_Load(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
Compute(3);
}
private void Compute(int counter)
{
// If we're done computing, just return.
if (counter == 0)
return;
var ui = TaskScheduler.FromCurrentSynchronizationContext();
Task.Factory.StartNew(() => A(counter))
.ContinueWith(t =>
{
Text = t.Result.ToString(); // Update UI with results.
// Continue working.
Compute(counter - 1);
}, ui);
}
private int A(int value)
{
return value; // CPU-intensive work.
}
...
Now, the question returns: what thread does A run on? Go ahead and walk through it; you should have enough knowledge at this point to figure out the answer.
Ready? The method A runs on a thread pool thread the first time, and then it runs on the UI thread the last two times.
I strongly recommend you to read whole article for better understanding the StartNew method usage, but want to point out the last advice from there:
Unfortunately, the only overloads for StartNew that take a
TaskScheduler also require you to specify the CancellationToken and
TaskCreationOptions. This means that in order to use
Task.Factory.StartNew to reliably, predictably queue work to the
thread pool, you have to use an overload like this:
Task.Factory.StartNew(A, CancellationToken.None,
TaskCreationOptions.DenyChildAttach, TaskScheduler.Default);
And really, that’s kind of ridiculous. Just use Task.Run(() => A());.
So, may be your code can be easily improved simply by switching the method you are creating news tasks. But there is some other suggestions regarding your question:
Use BlockingCollection for the storing the reports, and write a simple consumer from this queue to UI, so you'll always have a limited number of reports to represent, but at the end all of them will be handled.
Use a ConcurrentExclusiveSchedulerPair class for your logic: for generating the reports use the ConcurrentScheduler Property and for displaying them use ExclusiveScheduler Property.
I have a task with a huge amount of input data (video). I need to process its frames in the background without freezing the UI and I don't need to process every frame.
So I want to create a background thread and skip frames while background is busy. Than I get another frames from video input and again.
I have this simple code now. I worked. But can it cause troubles and may be there is a better approach?
public class VideoProcessor{
bool busy=false;
void VideoStreamingEvent(Frame data){
if(!busy){
busy=true;
InvokeInBackground(()=>{
DataProcessing(data);
busy=false;
});
}
}
}
But can it cause troubles and may be there is a better approach?
If the VideoStreamingEvent method never executes concurrently on multiple threads, then this will work fine if you simply add volatile to the busy field declaration. It may, in practice, appear to work well enough without it, but that behavior is not guaranteed.
If it is possible for VideoStreamingEvent to be invoked on multiple threads, then you will need some synchronization around where you read and write the busy field.
I'm writing an application working with a big and ugly 3rd party system via a complicated API.
Sometimes some errors happen in the system, but if we wait for my program to face this errors it can be too late.
So, I use a separate thread to check the system state as following:
while (true)
{
ask_state();
check_state();
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(TimeSpan.FromSeconds(1));
}
It doesn't really matter if I check the system state once in 100 ms or once a minute.
But I have heard that using Thread.Sleep() is a bad practice. Why? And what can I do in this situation?
One reason is that Thread.Sleep() is blocking your code from doing anything else. Recent efforts is to make blocking as least as possible. For example, node.js is a non-blocking language.
Update: I don't know about the infrastructure of Timer class in C#. Maybe it's also blocking.
You can schedule a task to check that third API every 100 ms. This way, during that 100 ms, your program can do other tasks.
Update: This analogy might help. If we compare operating system to a hospital, and compare the threads to nurses in that hospital, the supervisor (programmer) can choose a policy:
Either to ask each nurse (thread) to watch one, and only one patient (a job, a task to be done), even if between each check she waits for an hour (Sleep() method)
To ask each nurse to check each patient, and during the interval till next check, go on and check other patients.
The first model is blocking. It's not scalable. But in the second model, even with few nurses, you might be able to serve many patients.
Because the only way to shut down this thread if it's waiting inside the Sleep is to either a) wait for the Sleep to end, or b) use one of Thread.Abort or Thread.Interrupt.1
If it's a long sleep, then (a) isn't really suitable if you're trying to be responsive. And (b) are pretty obnoxious if the code happens to not actually be inside the Sleep at the time.
It's far better, if you want to be able to interrupt the sleeping behaviour in a suitable fashion, to use a waitable object (such as e.g. a ManualResetEvent) - you might then even be able to place the wait on the waitable object into the while conditional, to make it clear what will cause the thread to exit.
1 I've use shutdown in this instance because it's a very common scenario where cross-thread communication is required. But for any other cross-thread signalling or communication, the same arguments can also apply, and if it's not shutdown then Thread.Abort or Thread.Interrupt are even less suitable.
i would set a timer to whatever ms you want and wait for my check methods to complete, by the way do you want to use an eternal loop or it is not a complete code that you showed up there ?
ok this is a sample of what i'm talking about:
public void myFunction()
{
int startCount = Environment.TickCount;
ask_state();
check_state();
while (true)
{
if (Environment.TickCount - startCount >= 20000) //two seconds
{
break;
}
Application.DoEvents();
}
}
//Now you have an organized function that makes the task you want just call it every
// time interval, again you can use a timer to do that for you
private void timer_Tick(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
myFunction();
}
good luck
Suppose you are permanently invoking a method asynchronously onto the UI thread/dispatcher with
while (true) {
uiDispatcher.BeginInvoke(new Action<int, T>(insert_), DispatcherPriority.Normal, new object[] { });
}
On every run of the program you observe that the GUI of the application begins to freeze after about 90 seconds due to the flood of invocations (time varies but lies roughly between 1 and 2 minutes).
How could one exactly determine (measure ?) the point when this overloading occurs in order to stop it early enough ?
Appendix I:
In my actual program I don't have an infinite loop. I have an algorithm that iterates several hundred times before terminating. In every iteration I am adding a string to a List control in my WPF application. I used the while (true) { ... } construct because it matches best what happens. In fact the algorithm terminates correctly and all (hundreds) strings are added correctly to my List but after some time I am loosing the ability to use my GUI until the algorithm terminates - then the GUI is responsive again.
Appendix II:
The purpose of my program is to observe a particular algorithm while it's running. The strings I am adding are log entries: one log string per iteration. The reason why I am invoking these add-operations is that the algorithm is running in another thread than the UI thread. To catch up with the fact that I can't do UI manipulation from any thread other than the UI thread I built some kind of ThreadSafeObservableCollection (But I am pretty sure that this code is not worth posting because it would detract from the actual problem what I think is that the UI can't handle the repeatedly and fast invocation of methods.
It's pretty straight forward: you are doing it wrong by the time you overload the user's eyeballs. Which happens pretty quickly as far as modern cpu cores are concerned, beyond 20 updates per second the displayed information just starts to look like a blur. Something the cinema takes advantage of, movies play back at 24 frames per second.
Updating any faster than that is just a waste of resources. You still have an enormous amount of breathing room left before the UI thread starts to buckle. It depends on the amount of work you ask it to do, but typical is a x50 safety margin. A simple timer based on Environment.TickCount will get the job done, fire an update when the difference is >= 45 msec.
Posting that often to the UI is a red flag. Here is an alternative: Put new strings into a ConcurrentQueue and have a timer pull them out every 100ms.
Very simple and easy to implement, and the result is perfect.
I've not used WPF--just Windows Forms, but I would suggest that if there is a view-only control which will need to be updated asynchronously, the proper way to do it is to write the control so that its properties can be accessed freely from any thread, and updating a control will BeginInvoke the refresh routine only if there isn't already an update pending; the latter determination can be made with an Int32 "flag" and Interlock.Exchange (the property setter calls Interlocked.Exchange on the flag after changing the underlying field; if the flag had been clear, it does a BeginInvoke on the refresh routine; the refresh routine then clears the flag and performs the refresh). In some cases, the pattern may be further enhanced by having the control's refresh routine check how much time has elapsed since the last time it ran and, if the answer is less than 20ms or so, use a timer to trigger a refresh 20ms after the previous one.
Even though .net can handle having many BeginInvoke actions posted on the UI thread, it's often pointless to have more than update for a single control pending at a time. Limit the pending actions to one (or at most a small number) per control, and there will be no danger of the queue overflowing.
ok, sorry for the bad link before in the comments, but I kept reading and maybe this will be of help:
The DispatcherOperation object returned by BeginInvoke can be used in several ways to interact with the specified delegate, such as:
Changing the DispatcherPriority of the delegate as it is pending execution in the event queue.
Removing the delegate from the event queue.
Waiting for the delegate to return.
Obtaining the value that the delegate returns after it is executed.
If multiple BeginInvoke calls are made at the same DispatcherPriority, they will be executed in the order the calls were made.
If BeginInvoke is called on a Dispatcher which has shut down, the status property of the returned DispatcherOperation is set to Aborted.
Maybe you can do something with the number of delegates that you are waiting on...
To put supercat's solution in a more WPF like way, try for an MVVM pattern and then you can have a separate view model class which you can share between threads, perhaps take locks out at apropriate points or use the concurrent collections class. You implement an interface (I think it's INotifyPropertyChanged and fire an event to say the collection has changed. This event must be fired from the UI thread, but only needs
After going through the answers provided by others and your comments on them, your actual intent seems to be ensuring that UI remains responsive. For this I think you have already received good proposals.
But still, to answer your question (how to detect and flag overloading of UI thread) verbatim, I can suggest the following:
First determine what should be the definition of 'overloading' (for e.g. I can assume it to be 'UI thread stops rendering the controls and stops processing user input' for a big enough duration)
Define this duration (for e.g. if UI thread continues to process render and input messages in at-most 40ms I will say it is not overloaded).
Now Initiate a DispactherTimer with DispatcherPriority set according to your definition for overloading (for my e.g. it can be DispatcherPriority.Input or lower) and Interval sufficiently less than your 'duration' for overloading
Maintain a shared variable of type DateTime and on each tick of the timer change its value to DateTime.Now.
In the delegate you pass to BeginInvoke, you can compute a difference between current time and the last time Tick was fired. If it exceeds your 'measure' of overloading then well the UI thread is 'Overloaded' according to your definition. You can then set a shared flag which can be checked from inside your loop to take appropriate action.
Though I admit, it is not fool proof, but by empirically adjusting your 'measure' you should be able to detect overloading before it impacts you.
Use a StopWatch to measure minimum, maximum, average, first and last update durations. (You can ouput this to your UI.)
Your update frequency must be < than 1/(the average update duration).
Change your algorithm's implementation so that it iterations are invoked by a multimedia timer e.g. this .NET wrapper or this .NET wrapper. When the timer is activated, use Interlocked to prevent running a new iteration before current iteration is complete. If you need to iterations on the main, use a dispatcher. You can run more than 1 iteration per timer event, use a parameter for this and together with time measurements determine how many interations to run per timer event and how often you want the timer events.
I do not recommend using less than 5mSec for the timer, as the timer events will suffocate the CPU.
As I wrote ealier in my comment, use DispatcherPriority.Input when dispatching to the main thread, that way the UI's CPU time isn't suffocated by the dispatches. This is the same priority the UI messages have, so that way they are not ignored.
How do you implement busy waiting in a not total inefficient way? I am facing the issue that I can load the data of my model only in a pull manner, which means I have to invoke getXYZ() methods in a continuous way.
This has to happen not fast enough for user interaction, but fast enought, that when a state in the GUI is changed, the model can be noticed and the new state is received by the getXYZ() methods.
My approach simply be:
while (c.hasChanged()) {
Thread.sleep(500);
}
updateData();
Are there better mechanisms?
Your problem seems to be solvable with Threading.
In WPF you can do:
Thread t = new Thread((ThreadStart)delegate() {
while (true) {
Thread.sleep(500);
if (c.hasChanged())
Dispatcher.Invoke((Action)delegate() {updateData();});
}
}).Start();
In WinForms
Thread t = new Thread((ThreadStart)delegate() {
while (true) {
Thread.sleep(500);
// this must derive from Control
if (c.hasChanged())
this.Invoke((Action)delegate() {updateData();});
}
}).Start();
There may be missing parameters to Invoke (which is needed to execute the code on the calling UI thread) but I'm writing this from my brain so no intellisense at disposal :D
In .NET 4 you can use TaskFactory.StartNew instead of spawning a thread by yourself.
In .Net <= 4, you could use the TreadPool for the thread.
However I recall you need this to be run at once because you expect it to be there checking as soon as possible and the thread pool won't assure you that (it could be already full, but not very likely:-).
Just don't do silly things like spawning more of them in a loop!
And inside the thread you should put a check like
while (!Closing)
so that the thread can finish when you need it without having to resort to bad things like t.Abort();
An when exiting put the Closing to true and do a t.Join() to close the checker thread.
EDIT:
I forgot to say that the Closing should be a bool property or a VOLATILE boolean, not a simple boolean, because you won't be ensured that the thread could ever finish (well it would in case you are closing the application, but it is good practice to make them finish by your will). the volatile keyword is intended to prevent the (pseudo)compiler from applying any optimizations on the code that assume values of variables cannot change
It's not clear from your post exactly what you are trying to do, but it sounds like you should put your model/service calls on a separate thread (via Background worker or async delegate) and use a callback from the model/service call to notify the UI when it's done. Your UI thread can then do busy things, like show a progress bar, but not become unresponsive.
If you are polling from a GUI, use a (WinForms) Timer.
If this is some kind of background process, your Sleep() may be the lesser evil.
Explicit busy waiting is evil and must be avoided whenever possible.
If you cannot avoid it, then build your application using the Observer design pattern and register the interested objects to an object which performs the polling, backed by a thread.
That way you have a clean design, confining the ugly stuff in just one place.