I have a WCF service hosted in a Windows Service. I want a website to be able to call it asynchronously and then when the work is finished the WCF service will let the website know the result. I've looked at various ways of achieving this but I would like to get some more advice on which way would be best. I've looked into using callbacks but also read they can be unreliable. I've read about not doing it this way at all and just having another interface in my service for the website to query the status. I've looked at using MSMQ which at the moment looks like my preferred way forward but would like some more info on how to set this up or whether I shouldn't do it this way.
Does anyone have any advice please?
The nature of any communication on a network is unreliable. The statement:
I've looked into using callbacks but also read they can be unreliable
Assuming you mean WCF callbacks, they are as unreliable as the clients/servers themselves, they all use the same mechanism.
That said, you can store the client of your WCF service in the HttpApplicationState (if the call is application-wide) or HttpSessionState (if the call is local to a session).
When generating the proxy, make sure that you check the option (or specify on the contract) that you are using asynchronous calls.
Then, you would make the call, using a callback (delegate) to indicate when the async call completed.
When the call completes, you would then store the result in the session state.
If this is something that a client on the front end needs to be aware of, then the browser will have to poll your site, checking for the return result, redirecting to a page that can display the results when the result is populated.
Selecting a binding for your application depends on
Architecture of your application
Requirements
interoperability required or not.
response time of the application
availability of time to implement
Infrastructure you are using or want to use.
As your application is a web application and is built on a request/response model, you will not be able to use asyncronous or msmq style for this architecture(or is not adviceable), because there will not be any thread listining for a delayed async response or msmq call.
you can make use of one way Methods and direct calls to methods. in this case to reduce response time you have to device ways to optimize your service methods and the processing it is doing.
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I have two servers(and could be more later) with a WCF service, both behind a load balancer. The client application, in multiple IS servers(also loadbalanced), call the WCF to do some action, lets say a Save.
The same data, lets say Client information, could be opened by several users at same time.
The Save action can be, then, be executed from several users at the same time, and the call will go to different WCF servers.
I want that when a user call Save from UI, and there is already a Save in progress from another UI over the same Client data, then the second user be alerted about it.
For that, all WCF instances should know about actions been executed in other instances.
How can I synchronize data status between all WCF server instances then ?
I dont want to share the data, just some status of the data(opened, save in progress, something like that)
please advice, thanks,
I'm working with c#/.NET4
Added: WCF is actually hosted inside a windows service.
The problem you are having is one of resource management.
You are trying to resolve a way how you can get your service clients to somehow all know about what open handles each other have on internal state within your service, and then force them to orchestrate in order to handle this.
Pushing this responsibility onto your clients is going to make things much more complex in the long run. Ideally clients should be able to call your service in as straightforward manner as possible, without having to know about any other clients who may be using the service. At most clients should be expected to retry if their call was unsuccessful.
Normally you would handle these situations by using locking - the clients could all commit changes simultaneously and all but one will have to retry based on some exception raised or specific response sent back (perhaps including the updated ClientInformation object), depending on how you handle it.
If you absolutely have to implement this notifications stuff, then you could look at using the WCF duplex bindings, whereby your service exposes a callback contract which allow clients to register a handler for notification which can be used to send notifications to all clients on a different channel to the one the request was made on. These however, are complex at best to set up and do not scale particularly well.
EDIT
In response to your comment, the other half of your question was about sharing state across load balanced service endpoints.
Load balancing wcf is just like load balancing websites - if you need to share state across them you must configure some backing data store which all services have access to.
In your case the obvious place would be the database. You just need to make sure that concurrency/deadlock related problems are caught and handled in your service code (using something like NHibernate to persist the data can help with this). I just don't see that you have a real problem here.
I'm writing a webservice that drops off a long-running bulk insert command to a sql db through a stored proc. I don't want the webservice hung up while waiting for a response from the db, so I'd like to just return an http response that lets the client know the request has been sent to the db after I start the task. But as soon as I return the response, the task will lose context and get trashed, right? How should I keep this alive?
In general, it's not a good idea to spin off something to do work from IIS. What happens if the AppPool restarts? What happens if there is an exception?
Instead, I would recommend writing a Windows Service and have it responsible for the work.
Based on your comments, I would see if you can ask for the following requirements (theoretically):
All external calls are done through the web service. The web service uses a separate assembly for the actual data access.
A separate windows service is used for long running processes, which would also use the same data access assembly the web service uses.
That is really the best way to go (but not necessarily doable based on requirements).
I think it's more of a architecture question than just about maintaining the 'context'. And talking about architecture, I think WCF webservices would help in your scenario.
What you would need is a service with callback contract. Where the service takes a request, returns an ack, stores the client context (for callback), and triggers off a long running database task in background. When the task completes, it reads client context and calls the callback handler with the result.
This article at MSDN suggests how to do a callback contract in webservice.
Hope this helps!
I'm looking to create a web service and accompanying web app that uses an async web service call. I've seen plenty of suggestions on how to do async calls but none seem to fit exactly what i'm trying to do or are using a really outdated tech. I'm trying to do this in ASP.net 3.5 (VS2008)
What i need to do is:
the webpage needs to submit a request to the service
the page then needs to poll the service every 5 seconds or so to see if the task has completed
once complete the request needs to be retrieved from the service.
Could someone give me some suggestions or point me in the right direction?
The way I have typically handled asynchronous server-side processing is by:
Have the webpage initiate a request against a webservice and have the service return an ID to the long-running transaction. In my case, I have used Ajax with jQuery on the client webpage and a webservice that returns data in JSON format. ASP.NET MVC is particularly well suited for this, but you can use ASP.NET to return JSON string in response to a GET, or not use JSON at all.
Have the server create a record in a database that also stores the associated data to be processed. The ID of this transaction is returned to the client webpage. The service then sends a message to a third service via a message queue. In my case, the service was a WCF service hosted in a Windows Service with MSMQ as the intermediary. It should be noted that it is better not to do the actual task processing in ASP.NET, as it is not meant for requests that are long-running. In a high demand system you could exhaust available threads.
A third service receives and responds to the queued message by reading and processing necessary data from the database. It eventually marks the database record "complete".
The client webpage polls the webservice passing the transaction record ID. The webservice queries the database based on this ID to determine if the record is marked complete or not. If it is complete, it queries for the result dataset and returns it. Otherwise it returns an empty set.
The client webpage processes the webservice response, which will either contain the resulting data or an empty set, in which it should continue polling.
This just serves as an example, you may find that you can take shortcuts and avoid doing processing in a third service and just use ASP.NET threads. But that presents it's own problems, namely how you would have another request (the polling request) know if the original request is complete. The hackish-solution to that is to use a thread-safe collection in a static variable which would hold a transaction ID/result pair. But for that effort, it really is better to use a database.
EDIT: I see now that it appears to be a demonstration rather than a production system. I still stand by my above outline for "real-world" situations, but for a demo the "hackish" solution would suffice.
Which part are going to need to do async ? As far as I can tell your actions are synchronous:
1) -> 2) -> 3)
A simple web service would do, IIS (as any web server) supports multiple request to be handled async so you have no problem.
Something which you may need to be aware of. And also the javascript engine executes code in a single thread.
Step 0: Create the web service.
Step 1: Create the web app project (assuming it's ASP.NET).
Step 2: Add a web reference to the webs service to your web app project.
Step 3: The reference would create a proxy for you, using which you can invoke both synchronous and asynchronous calls.
I'm programming a monitoring application that needs to display the state of several windows services. In the current version, I can know whether a service is Running, Stopped, Suspended or in one of the pending states. That's good, but I'm wondering if there is a way to test if a service is actually responding? I guess it can be in a running state but not responding at all!
I am using the ServiceController class from System.ServiceProcess. Do you think that if a service is not responding, the ServiceController.Status would return an exception?
How would you approach the problem?
Thanks
EDIT
Seems that: ServiceController.Status can return 2 types of exceptions:
System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception: An error occurred when accessing a system API.
System.InvalidOperationException: The service does not exist as an installed service.
Nothing about reactivity.
This might be obvious, but have you tried talking to the service?
There's no common way to talk to a service, so there is no way Windows can interrogate whether the service is still responding as normal. It is perfectly normal for a service to go into a complete sleep waiting for external I/O to happen, and thus Windows would not get a response while the service is actually alive and functioning exactly as designed.
The only way is to actually send a request to it, and wait for the response, and for that you need some inter-process communication channel, like:
Network
Named pipes
Messages
Basically, if you need to determine if a service is able to respond, you need to check if it is responding.
The service controller types and APIs can only provide information on the basis of the service's response to those APIs.
E.g. you can create a service which responds to those APIs correctly, but provides no functionality on even numbered hours.
In the end you need to define "responsive" in terms of the services functionality (e.g. a batch processor is processing batches) and provide a mechanism (A2A API, WMI, Performance Counters) to surface this.
I have an application built that hits a third party company's web service in order to create an email account after a customer clicks a button. However, sometimes the web service takes longer than 1 minute to respond, which is way to long for my customers to be sitting there waiting for a response.
I need to devise a way to set up some sort of queuing service external from the web site. This way I can add the web service action to the queue and advise the customer it may take up to 2 minutes to create the account.
I'm curious of the best way to achieve this. My initial thought is to request the actions via a database table which will be checked on a regular basis by a Console app which is run via Windows Scheduled tasks.
Any issues with that method?
Is there a better method you can think of?
I would use MSMQ, it may be an older technology but it is perfect for the scenario you describe.
Create a WCF service to manage the queue and it's actions. On the service expose a method to add an action to the queue.
This way the queue is completely independent of your website.
What if you use a combination of AJAX and a Windows Service?
On the website side: When the person chooses to create an e-mail account, you add the request to a database table. If they want to wait, provide a web page that uses AJAX to check every so often (10 seconds?) whether their account has been created or not. If it's an application-style website, you could let them continue working and pop up a message once the account is created. If they don't want to wait, they close the page or browse to another and maybe get an e-mail once it's done.
On the processing side: Create a Windows service that checks the table for new requests. Once it's done with a request it has to somehow communicate back to the user, maybe by setting a status flag on the request. This is what the AJAX call would look for. You could send an e-mail at this point too.
If you use a scheduled task with a console app instead of a Windows service, you risk having multiple instances running at the same time. You would have to implement some sort of locking mechanism (at the app or request level) to prevent processing the same thing twice.
What about the Queue Class or Generic Queue Class?
Unfortunetally, your question is too vague to answer with any real detail. If this is something you want managed outside the primary application then a Windows Service would be a little more appropriate then creating a Console... From an integration and lifecycle management perspective this provides a nice foudation for adding other features (e.g. Performance Counters, Hosted Management Services in WCF, Remoting, etc...). MSMQ is great although there is a bit more involved in deployment. If you are willing to invest the time, there are a lot of advantanges to using MSMQ. If you really want to create your own point to point queue, then there are a ton of examples online that can serve as an example. Here is one, http://www.smelser.net/blog/page/SmellyQueue-(Durable-Queue).aspx.