I wrote a reminder program that runs automatically on startup. I want to know if there is a way, other than SQL-Server, to store event, date and time data. I do not want to use SQL-Server for this work, because I think SQL-Server is very big for this simple task. I think that I can use a file to store data in it. What do you think about this?
Some common ways to store information:
As a file. You have many options where you can store the file. For instance, user directory, and program directory. Further explanation here and here. I prefer using a serializer (xml or json).
As a registry entry. You store your information as key-value pairs.
In a light-weight database:
RavenDB: its document-oriented, and stores data in json format
SQLite: relational; I recommend this SQLite Admin for managing purpose
Registry entries are more safe regarding user actions. On the other hand, files can be easily deleted.
You always have the option, to encrypt your information.
As a side note, you can also use PostSharp to declare variables to be stored in your registry. The code becomes something like this:
[RegistryBacking]
private bool _boolean;
I can provide code later if you need it... when I'm home again.
For the part where to persist
From this document (Managing User Data Deployment Guide, download):
Windows uses the Local and LocalLow folders for application data
that does not roam with the user. Usually this data is either machine
specific or too large to roam.
Windows uses the Roaming folder for application specific data, such
as custom dictionaries, which are machine independent and should roam
with the user profile.
So, I suggest using AppData\Roaming and persisting to a file since I consider a 'reminder app' to be user specific. And domain users for example would consider that valuable (syncing to server).
Local and LocalLow (the latter is used for low integrity mode, for applications with reduced privileges) would be more appropriate for some machine/installation specific data which can be calculated on-the-fly.
Registry seems great for some low amount of keys, but doesn't seem to be the best option for such use.
There is another option - IsolatedStorage, which should be used when mentioned options are not applicable, like when using ClickOnce deployments.
For the part how to persist your data to a file ... well, pick your favorite. You could use SQLite database which comes really lightweigt if you want more control and power or just use XML serialization to a file if you consider using SQLite an overkill. Or any of other viable options.
XML. .NET has classes that makes handling xml files easy. If you're saving structured data then XML might be your best bet.
I have for very similar reasons tried some easy to deploy databases and yet use the knowledge i have.
VistaDB 3.x and 4 are my first choice because they are very much SQL Server compaible and allows me to switch to sql server anytime i like. This supports EF too!!!
Next is db4o by Versant which is very very handy. I use it mostly for quick prototyping but i have deployed to several small solutions and perfect for your kind of application.
I hope that helps!
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I want to be able to maintain a count and a last accessed date across application loads for a web service polling application. I'm not too sure what the best way to do this is. I dont like the idea of storing that data in a database as I would have to create one specifically for the purpose. What other options do I have and are there any particularly nice ways of keeping application state between subsequent runs of the app?
Persisting data eh? I suggest a database or file.
File solutions you can just XML serialize to a file and load it again when the app starts.
If the data is shared or might ever grow, then a database is probably the best solution. You can find one that fits your need among the many free projects if you wish:
couchdb
mysql
postgres
mangodb
membase
sqlite
etc
You could roll your own solution that doesn't involve a database, but most likely there is one that fits your needs and learning it would be useful beyond just the project at hand.
Don't be afraid to make a 'configuration' style table for your website, that simply has only a few rows and let's you store runtime information as needed.
Perfectly fine.
I'm looking for good options for persisting local state of an application (created in .Net / C#.)
I've considered rolling my own solution, or using a simple local database such as Sqllite, however I thought I'd ask the SO community what options are available.
The application I'm working on exists on a Kiosk, and I will need to maintain local state in case of accidental shutdown and other similar exceptions.
What do you recommend?
Update
Well, after further review I decided to use SQLite with DbLinq, the main alternative contender was SQL Server Compact edition, but there are several factors which I found important, which placed SQLite above SQLCE.
Notably.
The API provided by SQLCE (IMO) wasn't as rich as the ones provided by both SQLite.net or DbLinq.
SQLCE runtime performance wasn't as good as SQLite.
SQLite being open-source is a useful factor.
Why I didn't use Properties.Settings or app.config?
For my use case I needed something like a (easily) query-able event log (I need to allow auditing of credit transactions.) The primary state value I was addressing here was available credit on a kiosk. So to restore my state variables at application start up, I can query the log for the last entry and get the required values from there.
When you only need to store a value and retrieve it Properties.Settings or app.config are perfectly adequate places to do this.
I would recommend XmlSerializer or BinaryFormatter, you can look them both on SO or google.
Your choice will depend on few preferences such as size of dataset or ability to serialize it quickly.
And both are really quick way IF YOU NEED whole app state saved in one go.
However, if you need to save app state part by part, as changes occur, you'll be better of with some kind of a database, http://www.sqlite.org/ for example.
http://www.jonasjohn.de/snippets/csharp/xmlserializer-example.htm
http://www.jpreece.com/csharp/serialization-tutorial/
SQLite is definitely a good option, it's lighter than a full blown database, and it's ACID compliant in case something goes terribly wrong.
The only requirement here is that you have one concurrent user for the database.
Can you use the app.config or Properties.Settings?
You can use Settings in VS. For your case, you need user-scope settings that store user preferences.
You can use SQL Server CE 4.0 instead of SQLite. Store data in one file and you can use the Entity Framework Code-First.
I have a WPF application that stores a large amount of information in XML files and as the user uses the application they add more information to the XML files. It's basically using the XML files as a database. Since over the life of the program the XML files have gotten quite large, and I've been think about putting the data on a website, I've been looking into how to move all the information into an SQL database.
I've used SQL databases with web applications (PHP, Ruby, and ASP.NET) but never with a Desktop application. Ideally I'd like to be able to keep all the information in one database file and distribute it along with the application without requiring the user to connect to a remote database (so they don't need an internet connection - though eventually it would be nice if could compare the local file's version with one online somewhere and update if necessary) and without making them install a local database server on their computer. Is this possible?
I'd also like to use LINQ with any new database solution so switching to a database doesn't force to many changes (I read the XML with LINQ).
I'm sure this question has been asked and that there are already some good tutorials on the subject but I just can't find them.
SQLite is a good embedded database that you can ship along with your application. I have not done much more than some prototyping with it, so I personally cannot say with 100% certainty that it will meet your needs. But from what I have read, and what little I have written against it, it seems appropriate for the job.
SQLite Homepage
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If you know how your objects are all going to fit together, you could serialize them/deserialize them to store them on disk as a set of ProtoBuf objects (depending on their size, of course). I've found that it's a pretty simple, elegant solution to storing a set of interconnected classes. Each class that should be savable, all your data, can be serialized using this method, and then restored as necessary.
Here's the .NET link to it.
This is a previous question I asked on SO, and got several good responses.
I am currently writing an IRC client and I've been trying to figure out a good way to store the server settings. Basically a big list of networks and their servers as most IRC clients have.
I had decided on using SQLite but then I wanted to make the list freely available online in XML format (and perhaps definitive), for other IRC apps to use. So now I may just store the settings locally in the same format.
I have very little experience with either ADO.NET or XML so I'm not sure how they would compare in a situation like this.
Is one easier to work with programmatically? Is one faster? Does it matter?
It's a vaguer question than you realize. "Settings" can encompass an awful lot of things.
There's a good .NET infrastructure for handling application settings in configuration files. These, generally, are exposed to your program as properties of a global Settings object; the classes in the System.Configuration namespace take care of reading and persisting them, and there are tools built into Visual Studio to auto-generate the code for dealing with them. One of the data types that this infrastructure supports is StringCollection, so you could use that to store a list of servers.
But for a large list of servers, this wouldn't be my first choice, for a couple of reasons. I'd expect that the elements in your list are actually tuples (e.g. host name, port, description), not simple strings, in which case you'll end up having to format and parse the data to get it into a StringCollection, and that is generally a sign that you should be doing something else. Also, application settings are read-only (under Vista, at least), and while you can give a setting user scope to make it persistable, that leads you down a path that you probably want to understand before committing to.
So, another thing I'd consider: Is your list of servers simply a list, or do you have an internal object model representing it? In the latter case, I might consider using XML serialization to store and retrieve the objects. (The only thing I'd keep in the application configuration file would be the path to the serialized object file.) I'd do this because serializing and deserializing simple objects into XML is really easy; you don't have to be concerned with designing and testing a proper serialization format because the tools do it for you.
The primary reason I look at using a database is if my program performs a bunch of operations whose results need to be atomic and durable, or if for some reason I don't want all of my data in memory at once. If every time X happens, I want a permanent record of it, that's leading me in the direction of using a database. You don't want to use XML serialization for something like that, generally, because you can't realistically serialize just one object if you're saving all of your objects to a single physical file. (Though it's certainly not crazy to simply serialize your whole object model to save one change. In fact, that's exactly what my company's product does, and it points to another circumstance in which I wouldn't use a database: if the data's schema is changing frequently.)
I would personally use XML for settings - .NET is already built to do this and as such has many built-in facilities for storing your settings in XML configuration files.
If you want to use a custom schema (be it XML or DB) for storing settings then I would say that either XML or SQLite will work just as well since you ought to be using a decent API around the data store.
Every tool has its own right
There is plenty of hype arround XML, I know. But you should see, that XML is basically an exchange format -- not a storage format (unless you use a native XML-Database that gives you more options -- but also might add some headaches).
When your configuration is rather small (say less than 10.000 records), you might use XML and be fine. You will load the whole thing into your memory and access the entries there. Done.
But when your configuration is so big, that you dont want to load it completely, than you rethink your decission and stay with SQLite which gives you the option to dynamically load those parts of the configuration you need.
You could also provide a little tool to create a XML file from the DB-content -- creation of XML from a DB is a rather simple task.
Looks like you have two separate applications here: a web server and a desktop client (because that is traditionally where these things run), each with its own storage needs.
On the server side: go with a relational data store, not Xml. Basically at some point you need to keep user data separate from other user data on the server. XML is not a good store for that.
On the client: it doesn't really matter. Xml will probably be easier for you to manipulate. And don't think that because you are using one technology in one setting, you have to use it in the other.
Pardon my ignorance, but I've never really developed Windows applications. How do you store user settings? Is an embedded database the preferred method?
I think you are looking for user settings:
The .NET Framework 2.0 allows you to
create and access values that are
persisted between application
execution sessions. These values are
called settings. Settings can
represent user preferences, or
valuable information the application
needs to use. For example, you might
create a series of settings that store
user preferences for the color scheme
of an application. Or you might store
the connection string that specifies a
database that your application uses.
Settings allow you to both persist
information that is critical to the
application outside of the code, and
to create profiles that store the
preferences of individual users.
It depends on what kind of settings. There are a variety of methods from embedded databases (like SQLite) to XML files, to the Registry.
If the settings are very few, the registry often makes sense.
If the settings are more complicated, and need to be hand edited, you can use XML files or JSON.
If the settings are complex and do not need hand editing, an embedded database like SQLite, .NetBtree, or BerkelyDB .NET are good choices.
Use Blane's Pegasus Library (http://pegasus.codeplex.com/).
You could use his XmlSerializationHelper class which makes it a snap to turn objects into XML and vice versa.
Or you could use Isolated Storage (I would provide a link to MSDN if I wasn't a new user and restricted to one hyperlink per post). If you use IsolatedStorage, consider using Blane's IsolatedStorageHashtable class.
It all depends on what size of an application you are building. If you are on something simple, let's say, "family shopping list", you can store the settings in a good old plain text file.
If you are building something bigger, for example a "classmate notifier" you can use an XML file, or some kind of other resource.
For any bigger application you should use some kind of relational database, for storing user data.