My C# program has a very strange behavior. I'm using four ''hacky'' pinvoke methods in this program: GlobalKeyHooking, HotKey Registering, SetForegroundWindow/GetForegroundWindow, and SendKeys.Send/SendWait.
Here is where there is a behavior I don't understand. I'm stealing the Ctrl+V in a program where the standard cut/copy&paste routine is replaced by an autocomplete list in a listbox that appears and disappears. On some computer with Windows 7, my programs works like a charm, on an other 50% of computers with Windows 7 (and sadly no VS2010 to debug it), a very weird loop appears ---inside--- a method. Since the Ctrl and the V themselves are hooked, I already prevented the method to be infinitely triggered. That's ok. But another loop appears inside the method.
Briefly: myDebugValue increases until it reaches 23-24-25! So something is trying to execute a function a lot of times before deciding to stop.
Does anyone has already seen a similar undesired loop? Even though there is no try/catch block, it's bouncing inside the function.
Can some P/Invokes function crash on some Windows 7 and not on other?
Are P/Invokes having their own invisible low-level assembler error handlers try/catch, stronger than my C# program execution?
Visually, when it's doing it, I see my program UI quickly flashing a lot of times, 25 times, I guess.
private bool getOutOfHere = false;
private int myDebugValue = 0;
private void globalKeyHooking_KeyUp(object sender, KeyEventArgs e)
{
if (getOutOfHere) return;
myDebugValue = 0;
if (e.KeyCode == Keys.LControlKey)
{
getOutOfHere = true;
SendKeys.SendWait("^v");
getOutOfHere = false;
myDebugValue++;
}
}
I tried to compile with 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0, and on the same 4 computers, in all cases, it still the same rate: 50% crashes, 50% works.
[Edit]
I really think that SendKeys.Send acts differently on different computers with Windows 7.
Didn't want to answer my own question, but there is always a first time.
I decided to use a method similar to InputSimulator to achieve my goal and to avoid using SendKeys. Now, everything works perfectly on all machines.
I saw that InputSimulator is compatible with all my machines using Windows 7 and is using SendInput instead of SendMessage or SendKeys, so I used SendInput in my app.
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Windows 10.0.18362,
Visual Studio 16.4.5,
.NET 4.8.03752
Hi there
I wanted to setup a keyboard short cut to do something. So I set up the following code:
private void MainWindow_KeyDown(object sender, KeyEventArgs e)
{
if (Keyboard.IsKeyDown(Key.D))
{
// do something
}
}
Basically it works. The only (very nasty) thing that happens is that as soon as I implement "Keyboard.IsKey...(...)" into the code, run it, then pressing any key makes the window scales down (to
about 80%) totally out of nowhere.
I can replace the condition with "true" and it just runs as expected without any random out of nowhere scaling.
Did any one out there experience something similar? This behaviour does absolutely not make any sense, so searching for solutions obviously leads in dead ends only.
Thanks for any help or recommendation.
A legacy app is in an endless loop at startup; I don't know why/how yet (code obfuscation contest candidate), but regarding the method that's being called over and over (which is called from several other methods), I thought, "I wonder if one of the methods that calls this is also calling another method that also calls it?"
I thought: "Nah, the compiler would be able to figure that out, and not allow it, or at least emit a warning!"
So I created a simple app to prove that would be the case:
public partial class Form1 : Form
{
public Form1()
{
InitializeComponent();
}
private void button1_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
method1();
}
private void button2_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
method2();
}
private void method1()
{
MessageBox.Show("method1 called, which will now call method2");
method2();
}
private void method2()
{
MessageBox.Show("method2 called, which will now call method1");
// Note to self: Write an article entitled, "Copy-and-Paste Considered Harmful"
method1();
}
}
...but no! It compiles just fine. Why wouldn't the compiler flag this code as questionable at best? If either button is mashed, you are in never-never land!
Okay, sometimes you may want an endless loop (pacemaker code, etc.), but still I think a warning should be emitted.
As you said sometimes people want infinite loops. And the jit-compiler of .net supports tailcall optimization, so you might not even get a stack overflow for endless recursion like you did it.
For the general case, predicting whether or not a program is going to terminate at some point or stuck in an infinite loop is impossible in finite time. It's called the halting problem. All a compiler can possibly find are some special cases, where it is easy to decide.
That's not an endless loop, but an endless recursion. And this is much worse, since they can lead to a stack overflow. Endless recursions are not desired in most languages, unless you are programming malware. Endless loops, however, are often intentional. Services typically run in endless loops.
In order to detect this kind of situation, the compiler would have to analyze the code by following the method calls; however the C# compiler limits this process to the immediate code within the current method. Here, uninitialized or unused variables can be tracked and unreachable code can be detected, for instance. There is a tradeoff to make between the compiling speed and the depth of static analysis and optimizations.
Also it is hardly possible to know the real intention of the programmer.
Imagine that you wrote a method that is perfectly legal. Suddenly because you are calling this method from another place, your compiler complains and tells you that your method is no more legal. I can already see the flood of posts on SO like: "My method compiled yesterday. Today it does not compile any more. But I didn't change it".
To put it very simply: it's not the compiler's job to question your coding patterns.
You could very well write a Main method that does nothing but throw an Exception. It's a far easier pattern to detect and a much more stupid thing to do; yet the compiler will happily allow your program to compile, run, crash and burn.
With that being said, since technically an endless loop / recursion is perfectly legal as far as the compiler is concerned, there's no reason why it should complain about it.
Actually, it would be very hard to figure out at compile time that the loop can't ever be broken at runtime. An exception could be thrown, user interaction could happen, a state might change somewhere on a specific thread, on a port you are monitoring, etc... there's way too much possibilities for any code analysis tool out there to establish, without any doubt, that a specific recursing code segment will inevitably cause an overflow at runtime.
I think the right way to prevent these situations is through unit testing organization. The more code paths you are covering in your tests, the less likely you are to ever face such a scenario.
Because its nearly impossible to detect!
In the example you gave, it is obvious (to us) that the code will loop forever. But the compiler just sees a function call, it doesn't necessarily know at the time what calls that function, what conditional logic could change the looping behavior etc.
For example, with this slight change you aren't in an infinite loop anymore:
private bool method1called = false;
private void method1()
{
MessageBox.Show("method1 called, which will now call method2");
if (!method1called)
method2();
method1called = true;
}
private void method2()
{
MessageBox.Show("method2 called, which will now call method1");
method1();
}
Without actually running the program, how would you know that it isn't looping? I could potentially see a warning for while (true), but that has enough valid use cases that it also makes sense to not put a warning in for it.
A compiler is just parsing the code and translating to IL (for .NET anyways). You can get limited information like variables not being assigned while doing that (especially since it has to generate the symbol table anyways) but advanced detection like this is generally left to code analysis tools.
I found this on the Infinite Loop Wiki found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_loop#Intentional_looping
There are a few situations when this is desired behavior. For example, the games on cartridge-based game consoles typically have no exit condition in their main loop, as there is no operating system for the program to exit to; the loop runs until the console is powered off.
Antique punchcard-reading unit record equipment would literally halt once a card processing task was completed, since there was no need for the hardware to continue operating, until a new stack of program cards were loaded.
By contrast, modern interactive computers require that the computer constantly be monitoring for user input or device activity, so at some fundamental level there is an infinite processing idle loop that must continue until the device is turned off or reset. In the Apollo Guidance Computer, for example, this outer loop was contained in the Exec program, and if the computer had absolutely no other work to do it would loop running a dummy job that would simply turn off the "computer activity" indicator light.
Modern computers also typically do not halt the processor or motherboard circuit-driving clocks when they crash. Instead they fall back to an error condition displaying messages to the operator, and enter an infinite loop waiting for the user to either respond to a prompt to continue, or to reset the device.
Hope this helps.
I am a bit new to threading (not new to C#, just haven't done much threading). Can someone explain to me why this does not work?
I have a thread which calls a method I will call "Loop". Loop contains a while loop which will continuously run, and on every loop of the while I want it to check if the A Key is down (using Microsoft's Keyboard class within the XNA Framework). But for some reason it never registers that anything is being pressed.
static Thread thread = new Thread(Loop);
static bool abort = false;
public static void Begin()
{
thread.Start();
}
private static void Loop()
{
while (!abort)
{
if (Keyboard.GetState().IsKeyDown(Keys.A))
Console.WriteLine("A pressed.");
}
}
Might anyone know why the Console.WriteLine() is never being called?
EDIT:
I guess I should explain a little bit. What I am actually trying to do is create something similar to ActionScript's events in C#. So I want to pass a "condition" and an "action" to call if that condition is met in this separate class which contains this thread. What this would do would allow me to just add "event listeners" to objects and it would automatically constantly check if one of the events gets triggered, rather than leave it to me to write If statements in code to check for the events.
Upon trying to do so, the first thing I tested was regarding this XNA Keyboard stuff, because it was one of the reasons I originally wanted to build this system, but it didn't work. So I created the standalone code which i posted above to see if I had made an error in my previous code and it still didn't work.
I never use XNA so I didn't really "know" but I've run into similar situations where you can't get keyboard (and other) input from a worker thread. I googled and found that in XNA this does seem to be the case. See this for example
So you need to (and probably want to) process your game input in the GUI thread. Just checking for input on each update tick should be fine. I doubt even if it did work, you would gain any performance - and you might introduce some interesting synchronization bugs ;-)
It does look like your creating your worker thread properly - this just isn't an application for it.
I'm using waveOutWrite with a callback function, and under native code everything is fast. Under .NET it is much slower, to the point I think I'm doing something very wrong, 5 or 10 times slower sometimes.
I can post both sets of code, but seems like too much, so I'll just post the C code that is fast and point out the minor variances in the .NET code.
HANDLE WaveEvent;
const int TestCount = 100;
HWAVEOUT hWaveOut[1]; // don't ask why this is an array, just test code
WAVEHDR woh[1][20];
void CALLBACK OnWaveOut(HWAVEOUT,UINT uMsg,DWORD,DWORD,DWORD)
{
if(uMsg != WOM_DONE)
return;
assert(SetEvent(WaveEvent)); // .NET code uses EventWaitHandle.Set()
}
void test(void)
{
WaveEvent = CreateEvent(NULL,FALSE,FALSE,NULL);
assert(WaveEvent);
WAVEFORMATEX wf;
memset(&wf,0,sizeof(wf));
wf.wFormatTag = WAVE_FORMAT_PCM;
wf.nChannels = 1;
wf.nSamplesPerSec = 8000;
wf.wBitsPerSample = 16;
wf.nBlockAlign = WORD(wf.nChannels*(wf.wBitsPerSample/8));
wf.nAvgBytesPerSec = (wf.wBitsPerSample/8)*wf.nSamplesPerSec;
assert(waveOutOpen(&hWaveOut[0],WAVE_MAPPER,&wf,(DWORD)OnWaveOut,0,CALLBACK_FUNCTION) == MMSYSERR_NOERROR);
for(int x=0;x<2;x++)
{
memset(&woh[0][x],0,sizeof(woh[0][x]));
woh[0][x].dwBufferLength = PCM_BUF_LEN;
woh[0][x].lpData = (char*) malloc(woh[0][x].dwBufferLength);
assert(waveOutPrepareHeader(hWaveOut[0],&woh[0][x],sizeof(woh[0][x])) == MMSYSERR_NOERROR);
assert(waveOutWrite(hWaveOut[0],&woh[0][x],sizeof(woh[0][x])) == MMSYSERR_NOERROR);
}
int bufferIndex = 0;
DWORD times[TestCount];
for(int x=0;x<TestCount;x++)
{
DWORD t = timeGetTime();
assert(WaitForSingleObject(WaveEvent,INFINITE) == WAIT_OBJECT_0); // .NET code uses EventWaitHandle.WaitOne()
assert(woh[0][bufferIndex].dwFlags & WHDR_DONE);
assert(waveOutWrite(hWaveOut[0],&woh[0][bufferIndex],sizeof(woh[0][bufferIndex])) == MMSYSERR_NOERROR);
bufferIndex = bufferIndex == 0 ? 1 : 0;
times[x] = timeGetTime() - t;
}
}
The times[] array for the C code always has values around 80, which is the PCM buffer length I am using. The .NET code also shows similar values sometimes, however, it sometimes shows values as high as 1000, and more often values in the 300 to 500 range.
Doing the part that is in the bottom loop inside the OnWaveOut callback instead of using events, makes it fast all the time, with .NET or native code. So it appears the issue is with the wait events in .NET only, and mostly only when "other stuff" is happening on the test PC -- but not a lot of stuff, can be as simple as moving a window around, or opening a folder in my computer.
Maybe .NET events are just really bad about context switching, or .NET apps/threads in general? In the app I'm using to test my .NET code, the code just runs in the constructor of a form (easy place to add test code), not on a thread-pool thread or anything.
I also tried using the version of waveOutOpen that takes an event instead of a function callback. This is also slow in .NET but not in C, so again, it points to an issue with events and/or context switching.
I'm trying to keep my code simple and setting an event to do the work outside the callback is the best way I can do this with my overall design. Actually just using the event driven waveOut is even better, but I tried this other method because straight callbacks are fast, and I didn't expect normal event wait handles to be so slow.
Maybe not 100% related but I faced somehow the same issue: calling EventWaitHandle.Set for X times is fine, but then, after a threshold that I can't mention, each call of this method takes 1 complete second!
Is appears that some .net way to synchronize thread are much slower than the ones you use in C++.
The all mighty #jonskeet once made a post on his web site (https://jonskeet.uk/csharp/threads/waithandles.html) where he also refers the very complex concept of .net synchronization domains explained here: https://www.drdobbs.com/windows/synchronization-domains/184405771
He mentions that .net and the OS must communicate in a very very very time precise way with object that must be converted from one environment to another. All this is very time consuming.
I summarized a lot here, not to take credit for the answer but there is an explanation. There are some recommendations here (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/standard/threading/overview-of-synchronization-primitives) about some ways to choose how to synchronize depending on the context, and the performance aspect is mentioned a little bit.
I started using FMOD library, because I need to play sounds without gaps in C# application (both one sound in a loop and many sounds in a sequence). Can anyone show me the correct way to do it? I tried make something based on examples, but it's not working as I would like it to work.
Firstly, when I try to set if the sound is looped, while it's playing,
if (value)
sound1.setMode(FMOD.MODE.LOOP_NORMAL);
else
sound1.setMode(FMOD.MODE.LOOP_OFF);
nothing is going on. It only works fine, when I set th mode, before I start playback.
The second issue is: how can I be notified that the sound has reached the end? I tried to do it this way:
channel.setCallback(eofCallback);
where eofCallback is a reference to SoundEndCallback
private FMOD.RESULT SoundEndCallback(IntPtr channelraw, FMOD.CHANNEL_CALLBACKTYPE type, IntPtr commanddata1, IntPtr commanddata2)
{
FMOD.RESULT result;
if (type == FMOD.CHANNEL_CALLBACKTYPE.END)
{
//logic here
}
return FMOD.RESULT.OK;
}
But this callback is reached only when I manually invoke stop() on channel, not when the track ends.
Or eventually do you know any other library that would give me easily what I need? I chose FMOD, because it's quite popular, but I don't like its oldschool C++-like way of coding (no events, no exceptions, etc.).
And I have teh answer for my second question: to get notified you have to firstly set callback as mentioned before, and after that you've got to use System.update() method (it must be called periodically in a loop). This is a kind of polling,
To set the loop mode of a sound at runtime use Channel::setMode, Sound::setMode is like setting the defaults for any channels played from that sound (it won't affect currently playing sounds).
As for Channel::setCallback, make sure you are calling System::update regularly to have the callbacks fire for events like the sound playing to the end.