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MessageBox and while loop C#

I'm modifying existing C# code in order to pilote a piston. Every 30ms, I have a direct feedback of the position of this piston, through an event. The value is stored in a global variable I use to get the current position of the piston.
What I'm trying to achieve: for a given distance input (A->C), I want the piston to travel at full speed for 95% of the distance (A->B), and then slower for the remaining 5% (B->C).
I have access to a command that defines the speed and the destination of the piston : pos(velocity, destination).
However, if I write that code:
pos(fullSpeed,B);
pos(reducedSpeed, C);
the piston directly goes from fullSpeed to reducedSpeed
I tried to use a while loop to compare the current position of the piston with the goal destination, however, upon entering the while loop, the variable storing the piston position does not update anymore.
However, I noticed that by throwing a MessageBox in between, the position value keeps on getting updated, and I can simply click "ok" to launch the second command.
pos(fullSpeed,B);
MessageBox.show("Wait");
pos(reducedSpeed, C);
I would like to know why the "while" loop stops the update of the position variable but the MessageBox does not. I mean, as long as I don't click the "ok" button, the box is here preventing me from doing anything, which for me ressembles a while loop behaviour. Is there another way for me to do this instead of the MessageBox ?
I have little to no knowledge when it comes to C# and no support. I have tried to look in the documentation, but I did not find an answer (I have probably missed it). Any lead is more than welcome.
EDIT: I have no documentation for that code, and it is barely commented. Here is what I gathered (really hope it helps):
To move the piston, taht function is called:
MyEdc.Move.Pos(control, speed, destination, ref MyTan);
control simply define what we pilote (a distance or a load, it is an enum), and I have no idea what MyTan does. Only thing I know is that the MyEdc.Move.Pos returns an error code.
If I look at the definition of "pos", I am redirected to class
public DoPEmove Move;
containing among other things:
public DoPE.ERR Pos(DoPE.CTRL MoveCtrl, double Speed, double Destination, ref short Tan);
DoPE.ERR is also an type enum. However, I cannot reach the definition of a function named "Pos". Coud it be within the .dll included ?
The following is the code that allows me to access the position of the piston (without the global variables):
private int OnData(ref DoPE.OnData Data, object Parameter)
{
if (Data.DoPError == DoPE.ERR.NOERROR)
{
DoPE.Data Sample = Data.Data;
Int32 Time = Environment.TickCount;
if ((Time - LastTime) >= 300 /*ms*/)
{
LastTime = Time;
string text;
text = String.Format("{0}", Sample.Time.ToString("0.000"));
guiTime.Text = text;
text = String.Format("{0}", Sample.Sensor[(int)DoPE.SENSOR.SENSOR_S].ToString("0.000"));
guiPosition.Text = text;
text = String.Format("{0}", Sample.Sensor[(int)DoPE.SENSOR.SENSOR_F].ToString("0.000"));
guiLoad.Text = text;
text = String.Format("{0}", Sample.Sensor[(int)DoPE.SENSOR.SENSOR_E].ToString("0.000"));
guiExtension.Text = text;
}
}
return 0;
}
Which is called using
MyEdc.Eh.OnDataHdlr += new DoPE.OnDataHdlr(OnData);
I realise how little I know on how the soft operates, and how frustrating this is for you. If you think this is a lost cause, no problem, I'll try Timothy Jannace solution, and if it does not help me, I'll stick with the MessageBox solution. I just wanted to know why the MessageBox allowed me to sort of achieve my objectif, but the while loop did not, and how to use it in my advantage here.

I tried to use a while loop to compare the current position of the
piston with the goal destination, however, upon entering the while
loop, the variable storing the piston position does not update
anymore.
While you are in the while loop, your app can no longer receive and process the feedback event.
One possible solution would be to use async/await like this:
private const int fullSpeed = 1;
private const int reducedSpeed = 2;
private int currentPistonPositon = 0; // global var updated by event as you described
private async void button1_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
int B = 50;
int C = 75;
pos(fullSpeed, B);
await Task.Run(() =>
{ // pick one below?
// assumes that "B" and "currentPistonPosition" can actually be EXACTLY the same value
while (currentPistonPositon != B)
{
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(25);
}
// if this isn't the case, then perhaps when it reaches a certain threshold distance?
while (Math.Abs(currentPistonPositon - B) > 0.10)
{
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(25);
}
});
pos(reducedSpeed, C);
}
Note the button1_Click method signature has been marked with async. The code will wait for the while loop inside the task to complete while still processing event messages because of the await. Only then will it move on to the second pos() call.
Thank you for your answer ! It works like a charm ! (good catch on the
EXACT value). I learnt a lot, and I am sure the async/await combo is
going to be very usefull in the future ! – MaximeS
If that worked well, then you might want to consider refactoring the code and making your own "goto position" method like this:
private void button1_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
int B = 50;
int C = 75;
GotoPosition(fullSpeed, B);
GotoPosition(reducedSpeed, C);
}
private async void GotoPosition(int speed, int position)
{
pos(speed, position);
await Task.Run(() =>
{
while (Math.Abs(currentPistonPositon - position) > 0.10)
{
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(25);
}
});
}
Readability would be greatly improved.
You could even get fancier and introduce a timeout concept into the while loop. Now your code could do something like below:
private void button1_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
int B = 50;
int C = 75;
if (GotoPosition(fullSpeed, B, TimeSpan.FromMilliseconds(750)).Result)
{
if (GotoPosition(reducedSpeed, C, TimeSpan.FromMilliseconds(1500)).Result)
{
// ... we successfully went to B at fullSpeed, then to C at reducedSpeed ...
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("Piston Timed Out");
}
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("Piston Timed Out");
}
}
private async Task<bool> GotoPosition(int speed, int position, TimeSpan timeOut)
{
pos(speed, position); // call the async API
// wait for the position to be reached, or the timeout to occur
bool success = true; // assume we have succeeded until proven otherwise
DateTime dt = DateTime.Now.Add(timeOut); // set our timeout DateTime in the future
await Task.Run(() =>
{
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(50); // give the piston a chance to update maybe once before checking?
while (Math.Abs(currentPistonPositon - position) > 0.10) // see if the piston has reached our target position
{
if (DateTime.Now > dt) // did we move past our timeout DateTime?
{
success = false;
break;
}
System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(25); // very small sleep to reduce CPU usage
}
});
return success;
}

If you're using events you are probably having concurrency issues. Especially with events being raised every 30ms!
A very simple way to handle concurrency is to use a lock object to prevent different threads from using contested resources simultaneously:
class MyEventHandler
{
private object _lockObject;
MyEventHandler()
{
_lockObject = new object();
}
public int MyContestedResource { get; }
public void HandleEvent( object sender, MyEvent event )
{
lock ( _lockObject )
{
// do stuff with event here
MyContestedResource++;
}
}
}
Keep in mind that is very simple and by no means perfect in every scenario. If you provide more information about how the events are raised and what you're doing with them people will be able to provide more help.
EDIT:
Using that signature you posted for the Pos method I was able to find documentation on the library you are using: https://www.academia.edu/24938060/Do_PE
The reason you only see the method signature when you goto definition is because the library has been compiled into a dll. Actually, it probably wouldn't be that useful to see the code anyway because it looks like the library is a C# wrapper around native (c or c++) code.
Anyways, I hope the documentation is helpful to you. If you look at page 20 there are some pointers on doing movement. This is going to be a challenge for a new programmer but you can do it. I would suggest you avoid using the event handler to drive your logic and instead stick with using the synchronous versions of commands. Using the synchronous commands your code should operate the same way it reads.

I believe what you'll want to do is add a call to:
Application.DoEvents();
This will allow your application to process posted messages (events), which will allow that global variable to be updated.
I just wanted to know why the MessageBox allowed me to sort of achieve my objectif, but the while loop did not, and how to use it in my advantage here.
The reason that works is because you're giving the WndProc a chance to process events which have been sent to the application. It's not an intended feature of that call to MessageBox.Show();, but it is a consequence. You can do the same thing with a call to Application.DoEvents(); without the interruption of the message box.

C# Trouble Using Safe Thead or Background Worker

Fairly frustrating since this seems to be well documented and the fact that I accomplished this before, but can't duplicate the same success. Sorry, I'll try to relate it all clearly.
Visual Studio, C# Form, One Main Form has text fields, among other widgets.
At one point we have the concept that we are "running" and therefore gathering data.
For the moment, I started a one second timer so that I can update simulated data into some fields. Eventually that one second timer will take the more rapid data and update it only once per second to the screen, that's the request for the application right now we update at the rate we receive which is a little over 70 Hz, they don't want it that way. In addition some other statistics will be computed and those should be the field updates. Therefore being simple I'm trying to just generate random data and update those fields at the 1 Hz rate. And then expand from that point.
Definition and management of the timer: (this is all within the same class MainScreen)
System.Timers.Timer oneSecondTimer;
public UInt32 run_time = 0;
public int motion = 5;
private void InitializeTimers()
{
this.oneSecondTimer = new System.Timers.Timer(1000);
this.oneSecondTimer.Elapsed += new System.Timers.ElapsedEventHandler(oneSecondTimer_elapsed);
}
public void start_one_second_timer()
{
run_time = 0;
oneSecondTimer.Enabled = true;
}
public void stop_one_second_timer()
{
oneSecondTimer.Enabled = false;
run_time = 0;
}
Random mot = new Random();
private void oneSecondTimer_elapsed(object source, System.Timers.ElapsedEventArgs e)
{
run_time++;
motion = mot.Next(1, 10);
this.oneSecondThread = new Thread(new ThreadStart(this.UpdateTextFields));
this.oneSecondThread.Start();
}
private void UpdateTextFields()
{
this.motionDisplay.Text = this.motion.ToString();
}
motionDisplay is just a textbox in my main form. I get the Invalid Operation Exception pointing me towards the help on how to make Thread-Safe calls. I also tried backgroundworker and end up with the same result. The details are that motionDisplay is accessed from a thread other than the thread it was created on.
So looking for some suggestions as to where my mistakes are.
Best Regards. I continue to iterate on this and will update if I find a solution.

Use a System.Forms.Timer rather than a System.Timers.Timer. It will fire it's elapsed event in the UI thread.
Don't create a new thread to update the UI; just do the update in the elapsed event handler.

Try this
private void UpdateTextFields()
{
this.BeginInvoke(new EventHandler((s,e)=>{
this.motionDisplay.Text = this.motion.ToString();
}));
}
This will properly marshall a call back to the main thread.
The thing with WinForm development is that all the controls are not thread safe. Even getting a property such as .Text from another thread can cause these type of errors to happen. To make it even more frustrating is that sometimes it will work at runtime and you won't get an exception, other times you will.

This is how I do it:
private delegate void UpdateMotionDisplayCallback(string text);
private void UpdateMotionDisplay(string text) {
// InvokeRequired required compares the thread ID of the
// calling thread to the thread ID of the creating thread.
// If these threads are different, it returns true.
if (this.motionDisplay.InvokeRequired) {
UpdateMotionDisplayCallback d = new UpdateMotionDisplayCallback(UpdateMotionDisplay);
this.Invoke(d, new object[] { text });
} else {
this.motionDisplay.Text = text;
}
}
When you want to update the text in motionDisplay just call:
UpdateMotionDisplay(this.motion.ToString())

How to call function 200 times in 1 second

This code doesn't call function 200 times in 1 second, first time I get 167 calls, second time 201 but I don't get 200.
public Thread thread;
public Timer timer;
int i = 0;
private void Button_Click(object sender, RoutedEventArgs e)
{
timer = new Timer(Mess);
timer.Change(10000, 10000);
thread = new Thread(Calc);
thread.Start();
}
private void Mess(object state)
{
MessageBox.Show("Call in on second : " + (i / 10).ToString());
i = 0;
}
private void Calc(object obj)
{
while (true)
{
i++;
Thread.Sleep(5);
}
}

Its because of your scheduler wich manage the different threads in your processor. This process is not running all the time in your processor so strange behaviors can occur.
Programs using threads are rarely deterministic (it's why you get 167 for the first time ans 201 in the second time)

Because Windows is not a real-time operating system, it is difficult to achieve this kind of resolution.
The closest you are likely to get is by using the Windows API function CreateTimerQueueTimer(). This is a high-resolution timer, but it still might not be high enough resolution for your purposes.
You may still like to try it though. It's awkward to call from C# because it uses a callback function which Windows expects to be a native method. It's possible though, and here's an article on how to call it from C#.

Multithreading with textbox control [duplicate]

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Multithreading in C# with Win.Forms control
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Closed 9 years ago.
I'm beginner in C#. And I don't understand why next two examples are giving different results. I'm using microsoft example in msdn. In first example it displays one number in the textbox. In second example it displays all numbers from 0 to 1000 for each thread.
First example:
delegate void SetTextCallback(object text);
private void WriteString(object text)
{
if (this.textBox1.InvokeRequired)
{
SetTextCallback d = new SetTextCallback(WriteString);
this.BeginInvoke(d, new object[] { text });
}
else
{
for (int i = 0; i <= 1000; i++)
{
textBox1.Text = text.ToString();
}
}
}
Second example:
private void MyApp_Load(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
System.Windows.Forms.Control.CheckForIllegalCrossThreadCalls = false;
}
private void WriteString(object text)
{
for (int i = 0; i <= 1000; i++)
{
textBox1.Text = text.ToString();
}
}
And method which calls these examples
private void button1_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
Thread th_1 = new Thread(WriteString);
Thread th_2 = new Thread(WriteString);
Thread th_3 = new Thread(WriteString);
Thread th_4 = new Thread(WriteString);
th_1.Priority = ThreadPriority.Highest;
th_2.Priority = ThreadPriority.BelowNormal;
th_3.Priority = ThreadPriority.Normal;
th_4.Priority = ThreadPriority.Lowest;
th_1.Start("1");
th_2.Start("2");
th_3.Start("3");
th_4.Start("4");
th_1.Join();
th_2.Join();
th_3.Join();
th_4.Join();
}

Well I analyzed in my VS. I am also new to C#. But what I could infer is the following:
Program 1:
Begin Invoke is aynschronous way of calling a method. Thus it shows only one result at the end. If you have slowly did F11 in VS and observe, not really everytime you get the result 4. But sometime you get 3 too when you do F11 and go step by step at certain places(I mean delaying), due to multi threading. You should remember that, multi threading always never behave in same manner all the time, which means suppose if an application or module in multithreading gives you one result at a time, two times, and 10 times, you cannot be sure that its the correct or optimized code. Because at client environment, due to its own behavior, it can lead to different results which may potentially be unnoticed while debugging or it wont even happen. I read it in a nice blog.
Program 2:
Since its multithreading, I could see the behavior of different threads getting invoked at different time, and as it does the job, I see the textboxes are getting updated quickly in fraction of seconds thats not possible for an human eye to notice, but final result, a single number is displayed. Also you do check for cross thread calls )When you do step into every line of code using F11, you will find this behavior and understand well ) and you order not to catch it. This makes the threads to work together in second case.
This is my inference, but I can say, pretty corny! I don't claim this with confidence, but just my observation :)
Let some great folks chime in with their views to help us :)
Cheers

Multithreading to speed up load times

I made a program that loads a bunch of computer information. In the Form_Load event I have it initialize 3 (that number will grow) panels of information. One that has a bunch of unit information seems to make the program load rather slowly. I've tried to speed it up a bunch by switching from WMI to using Native calls, which helped a bunch. Soon though I'm going to have network information posted as well. I used to load that panel but i disabled it for a little bit till I work out the bugs in my other panels. So while learning how I can use a seperate thread to update my battery information I figured that I might be able to create seperate threads in my unit information panel so that it might could load faster. I dont know that any of my information would cause concurrent issues, but i can work on that.
I want to start small so what if i change this
private void Form1_Load(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
unitInformationPanel1.PopulateUnitInformation();
batteryInformationPanel1.InitializeBatteries();
magStripeReaderPanel1.SetupPointOfSale();
}
to this
private void Form1_Load(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
Thread infoThread = new Thread(new ThreadStart(unitInformationPanel1.PopulateUnitInformation));
infoThread.Start();
batteryInformationPanel1.InitializeBatteries();
magStripeReaderPanel1.SetupPointOfSale();
}
would the info thread be terminated when populate unit info is done? or would it be better to move that thread creation into PopulateUnitInformation? here is what it looks like.
public void PopulateUnitInformation()
{
unitModelLabel.Text = Properties.Settings.Default.UnitModelString;
serialNumberLabel.Text = Properties.Settings.Default.UnitSerialString;
biosVersionLabel.Text = UnitBios.GetBiosNumber();
osLabel.Text = OS.getOSString();
cpuLabel.Text = UnitCpu.GetCpuInfo();
var hdd = HddInfo.GetHddInfo();
diskNameLabel.Text = hdd.Name;
diskCapacityLabel.Text = hdd.Capacity;
diskFirmwareLabel.Text = hdd.Firmware;
memoryLabel.Text = MemoryInformation.GetTotalMemory();
NetworkPresenceInformation.GetAdapatersPresent();
biometricLabel.Text = BiometricInformation.IsPresent ? "Present" : "Not Present";
var networkAdaptersPresense = NetworkPresenceInformation.GetAdapatersPresent();
bluetoothLabel.Text = networkAdaptersPresense[0] ? "Present" : "Not Present";
wifiLabel.Text = networkAdaptersPresense[1] ? "Present" : "Not Present";
cellularLabel.Text = networkAdaptersPresense[2] ? "Present" : "Not Present";
}
--
wow i just ran it with the infothread and it still took some time to load (might be the 12 panels i created in the main thread. but it loaded the 12 frames and the unit information panel populated its information after everything loaded. That was cool, but is it safe? is it somewhat easy to make 12 threads for my panels? or is that dumb?
EDIT
this is what i did for stopwatch.
Stopwatch programTimer;
public Form1()
{
programTimer = Stopwatch.StartNew();
InitializeComponent();
SetupDebugWindow();
TerminateKeymon();
UnitModel.SetModel();
UnitSerialNumber.SetSerialNumber();
}
private void Form1_Shown(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
audioBrightnessPanel1.UpdateBrightnessTrackbar();
applicationLauncherPanel1.LoadApplications();
programTimer.Stop();
Console.WriteLine("Load Time: {0}",programTimer.ElapsedMilliseconds);
timer1.Start();
}
Will this be accurate?
EDIT 2 6/18/2012
Well I took the advice of using backgroundworker. Please let me know if i did this right.
private void Form1_Load(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
backgroundWorker1.RunWorkerAsync();
}
void BackgroundWorker1DoWork(object sender, System.ComponentModel.DoWorkEventArgs e)
{
unitInformationPanel1.PopulateUnitInformation();
batteryInformationPanel1.InitializeBatteries();
magStripeReaderPanel1.SetupPointOfSale();
}

You've asked a very broad question, but I'm going to give some general advice. If you want more specific information, you should consider deleting this question and posting more specific individual questions.
First and foremost, you should very strongly consider using something like the System.Threading.Task class for your multithreaded operations. There is a ton of information online about how to get started with it and how you can use Tasks to manage asynchronous operations. The short story is that if you're spinning up your own thread (as you're doing above), you almost certainly should be using something else to do that for you.
Adding multithreading to your code will not, in the strictest sense of the word, make it any "faster"; they will always take the same amount of total processor time. What it can and will do is two things: free up the UI thread to be responsive and allow you to split that "total processor time" across multiple cores or processors, should those be available to the system. So, if you have operation X that takes 10 seconds to complete, then just shifting operation X to another thread will not make it complete any faster than 10 seconds.
No, what you are doing above is not safe. I'm assuming that somewhere you've turned off checking for cross-thread communication errors in your app? Otherwise, that code should throw an exception, assuming this is a WinForms or WPF application. This is one reason to use Tasks, as you can easily separate the part of your process that actually takes a long time (or isn't UI related), then add a task continuation that uses the results and populates the UI elements within a properly synchronized context.

So my final approach this was as follows. I felt that my Main Form was doing more than it should. Sticking with the single responsibility principle I decided that MainForm should only be responsible for one thing, showing and displaying all 12 panels (now down to 11, i turned one into a menu item). So moved all the multithreading out of mainform and into program.cs. I found that this was even a little more difficult. What I did find though was a simple solution that allows me to not even worry about multithreading at all. It was the Idle event. Here is what i chose to do.
[STAThread]
static void Main()
{
DateTime current = DateTime.Now;
DateTime today = new DateTime(2012,7,19);
TimeSpan span = current.Subtract(today);
if (span.Days<0)
{
MessageBox.Show("Please adjust Time then restart Aspects","Adjust Time");
Process.Start("timedate.cpl").WaitForExit();
}
else
{
Application.EnableVisualStyles();
Application.SetCompatibleTextRenderingDefault(false);
Application.Idle += new EventHandler(Application_Idle);
mainForm = new MainForm();
mainForm.Closing += new CancelEventHandler(mainForm_Closing);
#if !DEBUG
TerminateKeymon();
StartSerial();
SetupDefaultValues();
EmbeddedMessageBox(0);
#endif
Application.Run(mainForm);
}
}
static void Application_Idle(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
Application.Idle -= Application_Idle;
mainForm.toolStripProgressBar1.Increment(1);
UnitInformation.SetupUnitInformation();
mainForm.toolStripProgressBar1.Increment(1);
Aspects.Unit.HddInfo.GetHddInfo();
mainForm.toolStripProgressBar1.Increment(1);
for (int i = 0; i < mainForm.Controls.Count; i++)
{
if (mainForm.Controls[i] is AbstractSuperPanel)
{
try
{
var startMe = mainForm.Controls[i] as AbstractSuperPanel;
startMe.StartWorking();
mainForm.toolStripProgressBar1.Increment(1);
}
catch (Exception ex)
{
MessageBox.Show(ex.Message + mainForm.Controls[i].ToString());
}
}
}
mainForm.toolStripProgressBar1.Value = 0;
}
to sum up what that does is is I add a idle listener event. Once the thead goes idle (basically meaning that Mainform is finished drawing and making all 12 panels and is showing on my desktop) I then kill the idle event listener and tell all my panels and classes to start working one at a time, updating my progress bar as I go. It works great. The load time is still the same as it was before, but there is window visibile after only a few seconds. Maybe not the best use of resources, but i think the solution is simple and straight forward.

I had a question somewhat related to this for Mobile app development a few months back (see How to write a Trigger?), and Marc "the man" Gravell posted back with a simple class that I modified to return data to my main application whenever the thread was complete.
The actual class I put into use has loads of pointless data (for you), so I'm going to paste in a revised version of Mr. Gravell's code using techniques which I used to make them work:
First, I had to create my own EventArgs class:
public class SuperEventArgs : EventArgs {
private object data;
public SuperEventArgs(object data) : base() {
this.data = data;
}
public object Data { get { return data; } }
}
Using that, here is a class I created to pass my data back to the main thread:
public delegate event DataChangedHandler(object sender, SuperEventArgs e);
public class Simple1 {
private object parameter1, parameter2;
private Control parent;
#if PocketPC
public delegate void MethodInvoker(); // include this if it is not defined
#endif
public Simple1(Control frmControl, object param1, object param2) {
parent = frmControl;
parameter1 = param1;
parameter2 = param2;
}
public event DataChangedHandler DataChanged;
public void Start() {
object myData = new object(); // whatever this is. DataTable?
try {
// long routine code goes here
} finally {
if (DataChanged != null) {
SuperEventArgs e = new SuperEventArgs(myData);
MethodInvoker methInvoker = delegate {
DataChanged(this, e);
};
try {
parent.BeginInvoke(methInvoker);
} catch (Exception err) {
Log(err); // something you'd write
}
}
}
}
}
Back in the actual main thread of execution, you'd do something like this:
public partial class Form1 : Form {
private Simple1 simple;
public Form1() {
object query = new object(); // something you want to pass in
simple = new Simple1(this, query, DateTime.Now);
simple.DataChanged += new DataChangedHandler(simple1_DataChanged);
Thread thread = new Thread(simpleStart);
thread.Start();
}
private void simpleStart() {
if (simple != null) {
simple.Start();
}
}
private void simple1_DataChanged(object sender, SuperEventArgs e) {
MyFancyData fancy = e.Data as MyFancyData;
if (fancy != null) {
// populate your form with the data you received.
}
}
}
I know it looks long, but it works really well!
This is not anything I have actually tested, of course, because there isn't any data. If you get to working with it and you experience any issues, let me know and I'll happily help you work through them.
~JoeP