Situation: We have a web application running on a server. This application needs to fetch data from some other PC(Clients), which are on a different network.
On the clients' pc there are WCF hosted in Windows Services using its their local Sql db. i want to make duplex communication between server and clients for share data with each other.
data share mean share data-table,data-set,string etc between clients and server .
Problem :
1) I have no control over the firewall, proxy, NAT on the client side PC. Mostly company Employee PCs have lots of network security e.g firewall block ICMP traffic and some port too, some Router might be Disabled port-forwarding etc etc , client can change network place.
I don't want to make any setting on client side Router,proxy,firewall though .
during communication how can i handle that's kind of issue of client side?
as you know skype is working perfect in that situation.
firewalls very often block inbound connections to clients; the client may not be reachable from the server, it may be using NAT translation behind a router and so cannot be contacted without port forwarding being set up on the router and some new router disabled port forwarding .
2) On clients side there is no IIS .
I don't want to allow remote access on clients PC.
There are more than 100 Clients and only one Server. one server need communicate with many clients on different network .
3) One side my client application is using window application and wcf hosted in window service ,Other side on my server i'm using Web application . so its mean communication is between desktop pc and web pc , that's issue .
If both using a web application then it was not issue to make duplex communication.because i know WEBRTC is fit there lol.
Technology which i had already test and find issue
WSDualHttpBinding: Not work if client behind NAT. check this for detail click here
MSMQ : its bad technique if clients more than 1 and performance issue also because its use RAM memory . check here click here
Xsocket: Its also not work if ICMP traffic block by firewall on client. check here click
WebRTC: Its work fine but its support web to web communication .as my client side i have win app.
Socket.io: Its need to set up node.js and many other thing , hard to implement because i need implement on existence application , i am not making new application.
C# Socket Program: Its wouldn't work if client behind NAT.check here click for detail
Service Bus relay: Its not free even for testing .
socketPro: I studied i find its good but i can't find any right sample on google .so that i could test that.
Genuine Channels: I can't find any sample on google .
Lets see SignalR issue .: Server side i run a console application and Client side i run two application ,one is console and other web. when i was running console client application than it was not initiating connection with Server but when i was using web client application then it was working fine.
sample link is here SignalR two way communication
I can't understand why thas??
Please tell me What is best most secure and fast way to handle this situation? what approach should i use ?
SignalR seems to fit for this solution, because it's flexible.
It negotiates the fastest available channel of communication and that is what you are looking for.
You should investigate the problem with it and signalR will eventually work.
I'm using SignalR extensively to communicate between the servers (C#), between server and mobile apps (C#, Xamarin, iOS, Android). The servers are at different locations and the mobile apps can be anywhere. It all works very reliable.
Take a look at: http://www.asp.net/signalr/overview/deployment/tutorial-signalr-self-host and here http://www.asp.net/signalr/overview/guide-to-the-api/hubs-api-guide-net-client
I've been working in my spare time with sockets (admittedly in c++, not c# but there shouldn't be a difference), and I've never had an issue connecting to clients behind a firewall/router, even without port forwarding.
Routers and firewalls generally don't like server-like programs, eg. programs that bind the socket to a port number. Does your client do anything related to binding? Because it shouldn't.
Needless to say, I would suggest a socket program. The way I see it, it's the most flexible way.
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I manage a web site for company that hired me after being unsatisfied with the original developer of the site. One function of this site is to add new patients. Part of adding the patient is to receive data from a USB port on the client machine via an applet. Since the Java 7 update 21 the applet does not work and the company has asked to remove the applet and replace it with a different solution. I am having trouble doing this, however, due to the applet listening to the client USB ports from the server to retrieve the data. I Have thought of a few ideas to solve this but am unsure if it is possible and haven't been able to find the answer online. I was hoping someone here could tell me if my idea is possible or point me in the right direction.
When the user adds a new patient the web site will call a web service on the server. This web service will then call a WCF hosted Windows Service on the client and active its serial port listener. Once the client's Windows Service has received the data the WCF will respond to the Web Service on the server and parse the data.
What I'm having trouble with is finding a way that the web service can call the WCF downloaded by the client and have it begin listening to the USB ports. If anyone could tell me how to do this, or suggest a better way to have the server initiate the client listening to the serial port I would appreciate it.
Do you have any system requirements?
When entering new patient, what kind of browsers are expected?
Will this be deployed as one solution, or clients expect that your application
can support any modern browser?
The main problem is that browsers are very restrictive in terms of what
kind of code you are allowed to execute. By default, browser won't allow
to execute any plugins / read any usb ports, let alone execution / installation
of arbitrary wcf service.
So, supposing that you have 'any modern browser' in requirements - you have following options:
Java / activex applet plugin. I believe this is the only sure-way to have access to usb
on a client machine. Also plugin must be signed with trusted certificate, or client must allow
execution of untrusted plugin (again, check requirements). I though silverlight would also
be a valid alternative, but according to my research (please correct if I am wrong) - its security
model does not allow any kind of USB access.
Prompt user to download and install browser plugin / helper object with access to usb.
And then communicate with your web page through this plugin.
Installing an entire wcf service on a client side would be an overkill in my opinion.
You would have to manage issues like firewalls, closed ports, security,
writing a self-hosting wcf solution, etc.
But if you managed to install and host a wcf service on a client side:
When the user adds a new patient the web site will call a web service on the server.
This web service will then call a WCF hosted Windows Service on the client and active its serial port listener.
Why not save a roundtrip and call client service directly from page?
Server would need to know client address to call it, which is not always possible.
Probably your web page can attempt to access localhost, at predefined port,
where your wcf service is listening.
Once the client's Windows Service has received the data the WCF
will respond to the Web Service on the server and parse the data.
It would be easier to respond on call from your web page (use polling if usb reading is slow),
and only then send to server. Browser already knows where to send data, and have permission
to do so. But if your server address is well known and can be accessed with domain name,
you can try to connect to it from your wcf on client.
Also there is a very similar topic, discussing connection to usb from client.
I am new to zeroMQ. I am trying to develop a simple client server application and I am following the tutorials on zeroMQ’s website:
Server: http://zguide.zeromq.org/cs:wuserver
Client: http://zguide.zeromq.org/cs:wuclient
It’s working fine when I am trying to connect to the server using Local Host Loop Back IP(127.0.0.1) or internal LAN IP but when I attempt to connect over the Internet, i do not receive any messages on the client side.
I have a couple questions:
1- Is this even possible? If not then is there any better way to implement the publisher/subscriber messaging model?
2- Am i doing anything wrong? Do i need to do something differently for communication over the internet?
Hoping to get some positive feedback.
Regards.
You probably have a firewall that has blocked external connections to the port you're using. You might try looking at the admin for your router () and opening a certain port to use for testing.
I have been doing research for a few months now on the possibility of client-server communication. I have experimented with many methods such as WebORB and FluorineFX, which are both servers designed to deal with client/server authentication.
WebORB only runs on Windows for their .NET version as far as I can tell, and I would much rather use an open source system. I have tried using FluorineFX, but I think their must be a simpler way for me to build my own simple system from the ground up.
I have been using Dropbox for a while now, and I like the way that the client-server communication is instant. As far as I can tell (from some Google searches) the client doesn't open a port of its own, and just communicates with the Dropbox server through port 80. An example of its instant communication is where you may delete a file on Dropbox on their website, and instantly the server communicates with the client telling it what has happened. I don't know how this instant communication is possible without opening a port.
I can create a system that uses fetching from the client, asking the server every 10 seconds or so to see if there are any updates, but I would like a method to be able to push the information from the server to the client.
My server runs Linux so I don't think I can use WCF, and ideally I am looking for a way to make PHP and C# communicate with each other.
I would love to hear any advice that anyone has and how they deal with the problem.
Cheers.
You CAN use WCF to communicate with any platform. Just make sure you're using an endpoint which your target machine support: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms733107.aspx
Have you tried the good old .NET Remoting which runs perfectly with Mono?
You can choose between a TcpChannel (for performance) and a HttpChannel (to pass proxy/firewall easily).
For push notifications, you can open a connection to your server and wait for an answer indefinitely.
I want to create a client/server web application. The client and server can exchange data back and forth. When i say data i mean like a number, for example (0,8,7...), so everytime a client presses a button it sends a number to the server and the server send an acknowledgement back to client. The cleint side i want to put it on the internet so you can access the server from a browser.
Is silverlight socket the way to go? I know theres port restrictions but im planning on using my personal router to open up the ports. Or is socket only for local connections???
Assuming you just have no idea where to start, I'd say you should start by learning about WCF (Windows Communication Foundation). Obviously, start with the beginner's guide. There are some nice introductory videos there that should get you going.
If there is such a thing as Silverlight sockets, you can use them. I'd rather use WCF. Sockets aren't restricted to local connections, but you should be aware that using ports different from 80 in Web applications can restrict some user from accessing your them.
I would like to add that sockets aren't the fastest local connections, but are the base of almost all inter-machine communication.
I am wanting to send some data to a server from a client application to the server via port 5555. I don't have a window's server. My question is if I purchase a .Net Framework hosting service. Would I be able to connect the client application to this server. and could I do it by sending a Post. I am new to this, so excuse me if it doesn't entire make sense. but I am looking for just some little direction. If someone could explain what port 5555 is used for that would be great.
Most hosting provides will only allow incoming connections on the standard web ports (80 for unencrypted traffic/http and 443 for encrypted/https). Outgoing connections are less likely to be restricted, but it is not uncommon that only a few specific ports are open.
If you're developing a custom solution and you do not need a connection that allows you to continually send data back and forth, then a hosted solution will do fine. If you do need the live link or custom port numbers then you'll need to upgrade to a virtual managed server, which is essentially your own virtual copy of a Windows server. This costs more but allows you to listen on custom ports - essentially do as you please.
As for determining the specific use of a port, most networked applications have simply picked one or more numbers without much research. IANA maintains a list of protocols/applications/services and their associated port numbers, but being listed requires that an application is sent and approved.
Custom port for data exchange + tcp/ip has been identified to be very difficult across the Internet, due to firewalls/gateways everywhere.
Why not use REST web service or SOAP web service for data exchange? That has been proved to be a firewall friendly approach as it uses port 80 or 443.