We run a Windows Forms application developed in C# in our company, and one problem is giving us headaches.
When we run the application from a local machine, in drive C:, for example, the application loads and runs fast. It's heavily database-based, which means it does a lot of queries to our MSSQL server, and it runs all queries in less than 1 second, while running from a local drive.
If we run the same application from a mapped network drive (not a UNC path, a M: mapped drive), it loads fast, but the queries takes ages to complete, and hardly we can see the result.
ClickOnce is not an option for us (due to reasons that are not subject to discussion here), and we have several other 3rd party applications that runs fast, loaded from the same mapped M: drive.
I did some research, and the closest question I could find is this one:
http://stackoverflow.duapp.com/questions/2554716/my-c-net-application-is-running-slower-when-the-exe-is-located-on-the-network
When I right-click the application there's no "unblock" option available, which tells me that there's no secondary stream attached to the file and it's "trusted" by the machine.
Also, I tried adding <loadFromRemoteSources enabled="true"/> in the .config file, but it caused no changes in the application performance so far.
The application is not signed, and the slowness happens with both debug and release versions of the application.
What are we doing wrong ?
PS: I'm still trying to pinpoint the exact command that's taking longer to work, but no luck so far.
EDIT: Adding new information. It seems that the problem wasn't the network "per se", but the fact that the application was doing a background task and failing because it was running from the network. This failure wasn't wrapped around a try-catch block, and was preventing the background task to return properly, creating a major delay on the application response.
That means it was our development bug, not Windows fault. Thanks for the answers, I'll vote to close this question.
I have recently found one scenario where exactly this was happening in .net winforms sql-server application.
On one machine, the application was lightning-fast, on another one, queries took seconds.
Second machine was configured to use VPN dialed via PPTP. The VPN was automatically reconnecting whenever the computer got online – even if the machine was in company network (where no VPN was needed). VPN auto-redial trick always seemed to be very useful... until I found that connection to the SQL server basically always went through the VPN because of this. Manually disconnecting the VPN instantly helped: responses got fast again.
I do not say this is definite solution in your case but this is one of things what causes almost unacceptable slowness of queries. I observed this first hand.
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I have a large-ish Winforms application written in C# which is periodically unresponsive. The issue seems to occur once the application has been use for an hour or so. Exact timings are difficult to gather as users often go off to work on something selse, get back to it and find it has become unresponsive.
I think a memory leak can be ruled out as I'm not seeing excessive memory usage (I've asked users to send a screenshot of the task manager and memory usagage is the same as I would see when the application is runnning normally)
Similarly, CPU usage is normal (single digit %)
As I've so far been unable to recreate the issue on mydevelopment PC I am planning on sitting next to one of the affected users and mirror every action the user performs in order to recreate this. (I'll be setting up a laptop to RDP in to my main PC)
Recreating the issue is one thing, but I'll need to find out what is actually going on in the application.
Could anyone tell me if running in debug mode (through visual studio) will be sufficient or will I need to do something different?
I've searched through a few posts and I've seen mention of profiling software, however I'm not sure if this would only help with general performance issues or memory management issues.
Alternatively, if anyone has come across similar freezing issues then do you have any suggestions of the kind of causes for this?
Some technical details: Aplication is C#, compiled against .NET 3.5, winforms GUI. There are a few external libraries (most significant is ComponentFactory Krypton Suite). Data access is to a Microsoft SQL Server 2005 database. The solution contains 39 projects, I'm not sure if that might have something to do with it?
Any suggestions/pointers would be greatly appreciated.
The application is working much more reliably now, freezing issues still occur on occasion but nowhere near as often as before.
The issue appears to be related to the endpoint security (in this case, Cisco Security Agent) present in the environment I'm working in, application has been whitelisted and has has significantly rediced the instances of application hangs. The development system I work on does not have this endpoint security present, so it didn't show up in early stages of testing.
Thanks for all your feedback, I think there are still threading and garbage collection issues that need cleaning up, hopefully this should sort out the last few issues.
Basically, I am making a program that blocks the internet access after 11h PM. But my only problem is that there is many ways to bypass it, such as shutting down the computer and the user just have to wait until the process gets closed by the OS itself then cancel the shutdown operation (Windows 7).
Any ways to make sure that the program won't get terminated before the pc shutdowns or anything?
If your goal is to block internet access, I recommend enforcing this rule on your router rather than on your PCs. It would be a much simpler, much more reliable solution. Your router probably already supports the feature, but if it doesn't you can buy a new consumer-grade router (dirt-cheap) and/or install a custom firmware that does (see Tomato Firmware for the Linksys WRT-54GL and company).
If the router approach just won't work for you, and you must block internet access in software, I would first suggest investigating Windows "local policy" or "group policy" to see if they can do what you want.
If that's too complex for your taste, try finding an off-the-shelf solution. Look into ZoneAlarm or NetNanny to see if one of them will do the trick.
But if you are bent on writing a C# program to do it for you, you probably want to look into writing a Windows Service. Services are more complex to write and deploy, but they can be configured to run at boot and are not slaved to a user session like regular desktop apps.
That's actually somewhat complex. It's like a virus - how do you keep it running, always?
You might want to read about drivers. Drivers have the highest "trust" by the operating system. They can physically access anything in the computer. Anything but a driver or a core file may be closed by the user manually, is some way or another.
Another thing you can do is to "burn" the file into Kernal.DLL or such. You can do it with a different operating system on the computer (e.g Linux) or by physically writing to the hard disk (not via Windows's API). To physically access the driver, check this out.
My program starts with windows startup,
But a background worker is supposed to work instantly after the program is opened.
But it starts with a delay and then even returns false signs(it returns if a site is up),
Only after about 15 seconds the background-worker continues to work normally and the program too. I think this is because of .net framework trying to load, or internet connection that is not up yet, or something that didn't load yet(windows startup).
What can solve this, and what is the probable cause? (WinForm C#)
Edit:
Here is something I thought of,
I don't think though that this is a good practice. Is there a better way?
(Load method):
while (!netConnection())
{
}
if(netConnection())
bwCheck.RunWorkerAsync();
I think this is because of .net framework trying to load
Nope. If that were the case your program wouldn't run.
or internet connection that is not up yet, or
Yup. The network card/interface/connection/whatever is not initialized and connected to the internet yet. You can't expect a PC to be connected to the internet immediately at startup. Even more, what if your customer is on a domain using network authentication? What if they delay network communications until some task is complete (this was actually the problem in my case below. Seriously.)
It may take even longer to get it up and running in that case (read: don't add a Thread.Sleep() in a vain attempt to 'fix' the issue.
I had to fix a problem like this once in a systems design where we communicated to a motion control board via the ethernet bus in a PC. I ended up adding some code to monitor the status of the network connection and, only when it was established, started talking to the device via the network card.
EDIT: As SLaks pointed out in the comments, this is pretty simple in C#: The NetworkAvailabilityChanged event for your programming pleasure.
It is absolutely because of everything still starting up. Services can still be coming online long after you log in, the quick login dialog you see was an optimization in windows to let you log in while everything else still starts up.
Take note of
How to detect working internet connection in C#?
specifically a technique that avoids the loopback adapter:
System.Net.NetworkInformation.NetworkInterface.GetIsNetworkAvailable()
I would like to be able to do an "inplace" update with my program. Basically, I want to be able to login remotely where the software is deployed, install it while other users are still using it (in a thin client way), and it update their program.
Is this possible without too much of a hassle? I've looked into clickonce technology, but I don't think that's really what I'm looking for.
What about the way firefox does it's updates? Just waits for you to restart the program, and notifies you when it's been updated.
UPDATE: I'm not remoting into the users' PC. This program is ran on a server, and I remote in and update it, the users run it directly off the server through remote access.
ClickOnce won't work because it requires a webserver.
I had some example code that I can't find right now but you can do something similar to Firefox with the System.Deployment.Application namespace.
If you use the ApplicationDeployment class, you should be able to do what you want.
From MSDN, this class...
Supports updates of the current deployment programmatically, and handles on-demand downloading of files.
Consider the MS APIs with BITS, just using bitsadmin.exe in a script or the Windows Update Services.
Some questions:
Are the users running the software locally, but the files are located on a networked share on your server?
Are they remoting into the same server you want to remote into, and execute it there?
If 2. are they executing the files where they are placed on the server, or are they copying them down to a "private folder"?
If you cannot change the location of the files, and everyone is remoting in, and everyone is executing the files in-place, then you have a problem. As long as even 1 user is running the program, the files will be locked. You can only update the files once everyone is out.
If, on the other hand, the users are able to run their own private copy of the files, then I would set up a system where you have a central folder with the latest version of the files, and when a user starts his program, it checks if the central folder has newer versions than the user is about to execute. If it does, copy the new version down first.
Or, if that will take too long, and the user will get impatient (what, huh, users getting impatient?), then having the program check the versions after startup, and remind the user to exit would work instead. In this case, the program would set a flag that upon next startup would do the copying, only now the user is aware of it happening.
The copying part would easily be handled by either having a separate executable that does the actual copying, and executing that instead, or the program could copy itself temporarily to another location and run that copy with parameters that says "update the original files".
While you can design your code to modify itself (maybe not in C#?), this is generally a bad idea. This means that you must restart something to get the update. (In Linux you are able to replace files that are in use, however an update does not happen until the new data is loaded into memory i.e. application restart)
The strategy used by Firefox (never actually looked into it) is storing the updated executable in a different file which is checked for when program starts to load. This allows the program to overwrite the program with the update before the resource is locked by the OS. You can also design you program more modular so that portions of it can be "restarted" without requiring a restart of the entire program.
How you actually do this is probably provided by the links given by others.
Edit:: In light of a response given to Lasse V. Karlsen
You can have your main program looking for the latest version of the program to load (This program wouldn't be able to get updates without everyone out). You then can remove older versions once people are no longer using it. Depending on how frequent people restart their program you may end up with a number of older programs versions.
ClickOnce and Silverlight (Out of browser) both support your scenario, if we talk about upgrades. Remote login to your users machine? Nope. And no, Firefox doesn't do that either as far as I can tell..
Please double-check both methods and add them to your question, explaining why they might not do what you need. Otherwise it's hard to move on and suggest better alternatives.
Edit: This "I just updated, please restart" thing you seem to like is one method call for Silverlight applications running outside of the browser. At this point I'm fairly certain that this might be the way to go for you.
ClickOnce doesn't require a webserver, it will let you publish updates while users are running the software. You can code your app to check for new update every few minutes and prompt the user to restart the app if a new version is found which will then take them through the upgrade process.
Another option is a Silverlight OOB application, but this would be more work if your app is already built as WinForms/WPF client app.
Various deployment/update scenarios (for .NET applications) are discussed with there pros and cons in Microsoft's Smart Client Architecture and Design Guide. Though a little bit old I find that most still holds today, as it is describing rather the basic architectural principles than technical details. There is a PDF version, but you find it online as well:
Deploying and Updating Smart Client Applications
Is this possible without too much of a hassle?
Considering the concurrency issues with thin clients and the complexity of Windows installations, yes hot updates will be a hassel without doing it the way the system demands.
We have a 2 x Quad Core Xeon server with 8GB of RAM and Windows Server 2003 Enterprise installed on it. We installed our application server which is based on .NET Framework 3.5 on it. The server uses SQL Server 2005 as its database server.
When we installed the application server, it used to have ultra fast performance and everything was fine. Once we joined it into our domain, its performance decreased dramatically. For example a task that took 1 sec to complete, now takes about 30 sec. This is very strange since only .NET based applications' performance got this performance hit but the other applications still run at their normal speed.
Does anyone have any idea about why is this happening? Any help or suggestion is much appreciated.
Unfortunately, more is probably needed to answer your question. There are a host of possible reasons why this is occurring, and most of them involve your code.
Based on the symptom that you joined the domain and then things started causing trouble, I'd say you've got a lot of networking that you're doing that previously was able to be done locally on your machine and the latency is now actually causing trouble.
But that's a wild guess based on not nearly enough information.
I'd suggest you profile your code. Find out where the majority of your time is spent during execution and then post the code or a sanitized version of it here so we can help you optimize it.
I did find the answer to my question so i thought it might be good to share it here. The CLR want generate publisher evidence for assemblies with authenticode signature when it tries to load the assemblies. In our case CLR was trying to connect to clr.microsoft.com but our server's internet access was blocked so it caused huge delay whenever the application server tries to load a new assembly.
The following post describes how you can disable this feature:
Bypassing the Authenticode Signature Check on Startup
I'm going to make a guess here and think that you're talking about a web application. If this is correct, you might want to take a look at the application pools you have setup on the webserver. Your application might be getting confused about which pool to set itself in when it starts running.
Another thing to check might be your data connections and make sure that you're closing everything that's been opened.
The last thing, like Randolpho said, you're just really going to have to follow your code execution with some kind of profiler and see where things are getting tied up.
Good luck!