So I am developing a UWP application that has a large number of threads. Previously I would start all the threads with System.Threading.Tasks.Task.Run(), save their thread handles to an array, then Task.WaitAll() for completion and get the results. This currently is taking too much memory though.
I have changed my code to only wait for a smaller amount of threads and copy their results out before continuing on to more of the threads. Since UWP the UWP implementation of Task does not implement IDisposable, what is the proper way to signal the framework that I am done with a task so it can be garbage collected? I would like to read out the results of the treads after a certain number of them come in and dispose of the threads resources to make space for the next threads.
Thanks so much!
Just to point out an issue which might be degrading the performance of your application: You are deliberately blocking the thread until all Tasks complete rather than actually await for them. That would make sense, if you are not performing Asynchronous work inside them, but if you are, you should definitely switch to:
Task.WhenAll rather than Task.WaitAll , such as this:
List<Tasks> tasks = new List<Tasks> { Method1(), Method2(), ... };
Task result = await Task.WhenAll(tasks);
This way, you are actually leveraging the asynchrony of your app, and you will not block the current thread until all the tasks are completed, like Task.WaitAll() does.
Since you are utilizing the Task.Run() method, instead of the Task.Factory.StartNew(), the TaskScheduler used is the default, and utilizes Threads from the Thread Pool. So you will not actually end up blocking the UI thread, but blocking many Thread Pool threads, is also not good.
Taking from Microsoft documentation, for one of the cases where Thread Pools should not be used:
You have tasks that cause the thread to block for long periods of
time. The thread pool has a maximum number of threads, so a large
number of blocked thread pool threads might prevent tasks from
starting.
Edit:
I do not need anything else but I will look in to that! Thanks! So is
there any way I can get it to run the Tasks like a FIFO with just the
API's available with the default thread pool?
You should take a look, into Continuations
A continuation is nothing else other than a task which is activated whenever it's antecedent task/tasks have completed. If you have specific tasks which you only want to execute after another task has completed you should take a look into Continuations, since they are extremely flexible, and you can actually create really complex flow of Tasks to better suit your needs.
Garbage collection on a .Net application always works the same, when a variable is not needed anymore (out of scope) it is collected.
Why do you think the threads are consuming the memory? It is much likely than the process inside the threads is the one consuming the memory.
I was reading up on async/await and when Task.Yield might be useful and came across this post. I had a question regarding the below from that post:
When you use async/await, there is no guarantee that the method you
call when you do await FooAsync() will actually run asynchronously.
The internal implementation is free to return using a completely
synchronous path.
This is a little unclear to me probably because the definition of asynchronous in my head is not lining up.
In my mind, since I do mainly UI dev, async code is code that does not run on the UI thread, but on some other thread. I guess in the text I quoted, a method is not truly async if it blocks on any thread (even if it's a thread pool thread for example).
Question:
If I have a long running task that is CPU bound (let's say it is doing a lot of hard math), then running that task asynchronously must be blocking some thread right? Something has to actually do the math. If I await it then some thread is getting blocked.
What is an example of a truly asynchronous method and how would they actually work? Are those limited to I/O operations which take advantage of some hardware capabilities so no thread is ever blocked?
This is a little unclear to me probably because the definition of asynchronous in my head is not lining up.
Good on you for asking for clarification.
In my mind, since I do mainly UI dev, async code is code that does not run on the UI thread, but on some other thread.
That belief is common but false. There is no requirement that asynchronous code run on any second thread.
Imagine that you are cooking breakfast. You put some toast in the toaster, and while you are waiting for the toast to pop, you go through your mail from yesterday, pay some bills, and hey, the toast popped up. You finish paying that bill and then go butter your toast.
Where in there did you hire a second worker to watch your toaster?
You didn't. Threads are workers. Asynchronous workflows can happen all on one thread. The point of the asynchronous workflow is to avoid hiring more workers if you can possibly avoid it.
If I have a long running task that is CPU bound (let's say it is doing a lot of hard math), then running that task asynchronously must be blocking some thread right? Something has to actually do the math.
Here, I'll give you a hard problem to solve. Here's a column of 100 numbers; please add them up by hand. So you add the first to the second and make a total. Then you add the running total to the third and get a total. Then, oh, hell, the second page of numbers is missing. Remember where you were, and go make some toast. Oh, while the toast was toasting, a letter arrived with the remaining numbers. When you're done buttering the toast, go keep on adding up those numbers, and remember to eat the toast the next time you have a free moment.
Where is the part where you hired another worker to add the numbers? Computationally expensive work need not be synchronous, and need not block a thread. The thing that makes computational work potentially asynchronous is the ability to stop it, remember where you were, go do something else, remember what to do after that, and resume where you left off.
Now it is certainly possible to hire a second worker who does nothing but add numbers, and then is fired. And you could ask that worker "are you done?" and if the answer is no, you could go make a sandwich until they are done. That way both you and the worker are busy. But there is not a requirement that asynchrony involve multiple workers.
If I await it then some thread is getting blocked.
NO NO NO. This is the most important part of your misunderstanding. await does not mean "go start this job asynchronously". await means "I have an asynchronously produced result here that might not be available. If it is not available, find some other work to do on this thread so that we are not blocking the thread. Await is the opposite of what you just said.
What is an example of a truly asynchronous method and how would they actually work? Are those limited to I/O operations which take advantage of some hardware capabilities so no thread is ever blocked?
Asynchronous work often involves custom hardware or multiple threads, but it need not.
Don't think about workers. Think about workflows. The essence of asynchrony is breaking up workflows into little parts such that you can determine the order in which those parts must happen, and then executing each part in turn, but allowing parts that do not have dependencies with each other to be interleaved.
In an asynchronous workflow you can easily detect places in the workflow where a dependency between parts is expressed. Such parts are marked with await. That's the meaning of await: the code which follows depends upon this portion of the workflow being completed, so if it is not completed, go find some other task to do, and come back here later when the task is completed. The whole point is to keep the worker working, even in a world where needed results are being produced in the future.
I was reading up on async/await
May I recommend my async intro?
and when Task.Yield might be useful
Almost never. I find it occasionally useful when doing unit testing.
In my mind, since I do mainly UI dev, async code is code that does not run on the UI thread, but on some other thread.
Asynchronous code can be threadless.
I guess in the text I quoted, a method is not truly async if it blocks on any thread (even if it's a thread pool thread for example).
I would say that's correct. I use the term "truly async" for operations that do not block any threads (and that are not synchronous). I also use the term "fake async" for operations that appear asynchronous but only work that way because they run on or block a thread pool thread.
If I have a long running task that is CPU bound (let's say it is doing a lot of hard math), then running that task asynchronously must be blocking some thread right? Something has to actually do the math.
Yes; in this case, you would want to define that work with a synchronous API (since it is synchronous work), and then you can call it from your UI thread using Task.Run, e.g.:
var result = await Task.Run(() => MySynchronousCpuBoundCode());
If I await it then some thread is getting blocked.
No; the thread pool thread would be used to run the code (not actually blocked), and the UI thread is asynchronously waiting for that code to complete (also not blocked).
What is an example of a truly asynchronous method and how would they actually work?
NetworkStream.WriteAsync (indirectly) asks the network card to write out some bytes. There is no thread responsible for writing out the bytes one at a time and waiting for each byte to be written. The network card handles all of that. When the network card is done writing all the bytes, it (eventually) completes the task returned from WriteAsync.
Are those limited to I/O operations which take advantage of some hardware capabilities so no thread is ever blocked?
Not entirely, although I/O operations are the easy examples. Another fairly easy example is timers (e.g., Task.Delay). Though you can build a truly asynchronous API around any kind of "event".
When you use async/await, there is no guarantee that the method you call when you do await FooAsync() will actually run asynchronously. The internal implementation is free to return using a completely synchronous path.
This is a little unclear to me probably because the definition of
asynchronous in my head is not lining up.
This simply means there are two cases when calling an async method.
The first is that, upon returning the task to you, the operation is already completed -- this would be a synchronous path. The second is that the operation is still in progress -- this is the async path.
Consider this code, which should show both of these paths. If the key is in a cache, it is returned synchronously. Otherwise, an async op is started which calls out to a database:
Task<T> GetCachedDataAsync(string key)
{
if(cache.TryGetvalue(key, out T value))
{
return Task.FromResult(value); // synchronous: no awaits here.
}
// start a fully async op.
return GetDataImpl();
async Task<T> GetDataImpl()
{
value = await database.GetValueAsync(key);
cache[key] = value;
return value;
}
}
So by understanding that, you can deduce that in theory the call of database.GetValueAsync() may have a similar code and itself be able to return synchronously: so even your async path may end up running 100% synchronously. But your code doesn't need to care: async/await handles both cases seamlessly.
If I have a long running task that is CPU bound (let's say it is doing a lot of hard math), then running that task asynchronously must be blocking some thread right? Something has to actually do the math. If I await it then some thread is getting blocked.
Blocking is a well-defined term -- it means your thread has yielded its execution window while it waits for something (I/O, mutex, and so on). So your thread doing the math is not considered blocked: it is actually performing work.
What is an example of a truly asynchronous method and how would they actually work? Are those limited to I/O operations which take advantage of some hardware capabilities so no thread is ever blocked?
A "truly async method" would be one that simply never blocks. It typically ends up involving I/O, but it can also mean awaiting your heavy math code when you want to your current thread for something else (as in UI development) or when you're trying to introduce parallelism:
async Task<double> DoSomethingAsync()
{
double x = await ReadXFromFile();
Task<double> a = LongMathCodeA(x);
Task<double> b = LongMathCodeB(x);
await Task.WhenAll(a, b);
return a.Result + b.Result;
}
This topic is fairly vast and several discussions may arise. However, using async and await in C# is considered asynchronous programming. However, how asynchrony works is a total different discussion. Until .NET 4.5 there were no async and await keywords, and developers had to develop directly against the Task Parallel Library (TPL). There the developer had full control on when and how to create new tasks and even threads. However, this had a downside since not being really an expert on this topic, applications could suffer from heavy performance problems and bugs due to race conditions between threads and so on.
Starting with .NET 4.5 the async and await keywords were introduced, with a new approach to asynchronous programming. The async and await keywords don't cause additional threads to be created. Async methods don't require multithreading because an async method doesn't run on its own thread. The method runs on the current synchronization context and uses time on the thread only when the method is active. You can use Task.Run to move CPU-bound work to a background thread, but a background thread doesn't help with a process that's just waiting for results to become available.
The async-based approach to asynchronous programming is preferable to existing approaches in almost every case. In particular, this approach is better than BackgroundWorker for IO-bound operations because the code is simpler and you don't have to guard against race conditions. You can read more about this topic HERE.
I don't consider myself a C# black belt and some more experienced developers may raise some further discussions, but as a principle I hope that I managed to answer your question.
Asynchronous does not imply Parallel
Asynchronous only implies concurrency. In fact, even using explicit threads doesn't guarantee that they will execute simultaneously (for example when the threads affinity for the same single core, or more commonly when there is only one core in the machine to begin with).
Therefore, you should not expect an asynchronous operation to happen simultaneously to something else. Asynchronous only means that it will happen, eventually at another time (a(greek) = without, syn (greek) = together, khronos (greek) = time. => Asynchronous = not happening at the same time).
Note: The idea of asynchronicity is that on the invocation you do not care when the code will actually run. This allows the system to take advantage of parallelism, if possible, to execute the operation. It may even run immediately. It could even happen on the same thread... more on that later.
When you await the asynchronous operation, you are creating concurrency (com (latin) = together, currere (latin) = run. => "Concurrent" = to run together). That is because you are asking for the asynchronous operation to reach completion before moving on. We can say the execution converges. This is similar to the concept of joining threads.
When asynchronous cannot be Parallel
When you use async/await, there is no guarantee that the method you call when you do await FooAsync() will actually run asynchronously. The internal implementation is free to return using a completely synchronous path.
This can happen in three ways:
It is possible to use await on anything that returns Task. When you receive the Task it could have already been completed.
Yet, that alone does not imply it ran synchronously. In fact, it suggest it ran asynchronously and finished before you got the Task instance.
Keep in mind that you can await on an already completed task:
private static async Task CallFooAsync()
{
await FooAsync();
}
private static Task FooAsync()
{
return Task.CompletedTask;
}
private static void Main()
{
CallFooAsync().Wait();
}
Also, if an async method has no await it will run synchronously.
Note: As you already know, a method that returns a Task may be waiting on the network, or on the file system, etc… doing so does not imply to start a new Thread or enqueue something on the ThreadPool.
Under a synchronization context that is handled by a single thread, the result will be to execute the Task synchronously, with some overhead. This is the case of the UI thread, I'll talk more about what happens below.
It is possible to write a custom TaskScheduler to always run tasks synchronously. On the same thread, that does the invocation.
Note: recently I wrote a custom SyncrhonizationContext that runs tasks on a single thread. You can find it at Creating a (System.Threading.Tasks.)Task scheduler. It would result in such TaskScheduler with a call to FromCurrentSynchronizationContext.
The default TaskScheduler will enqueue the invocations to the ThreadPool. Yet when you await on the operation, if it has not run on the ThreadPool it will try to remove it from the ThreadPool and run it inline (on the same thread that is waiting... the thread is waiting anyway, so it is not busy).
Note: One notable exception is a Task marked with LongRunning. LongRunning Tasks will run on a separate thread.
Your question
If I have a long running task that is CPU bound (let's say it is doing a lot of hard math), then running that task asynchronously must be blocking some thread right? Something has to actually do the math. If I await it then some thread is getting blocked.
If you are doing computations, they must happen on some thread, that part is right.
Yet, the beauty of async and await is that the waiting thread does not have to be blocked (more on that later). Yet, it is very easy to shoot yourself in the foot by having the awaited task scheduled to run on the same thread that is waiting, resulting in synchronous execution (which is an easy mistake in the UI thread).
One of the key characteristics of async and await is that they take the SynchronizationContext from the caller. For most threads that results in using the default TaskScheduler (which, as mentioned earlier, uses the ThreasPool). However, for UI thread it means posting the tasks into the message queue, this means that they will run on the UI thread. The advantage of this is that you don’t have to use Invoke or BeginInvoke to access UI components.
Before I go into how to await a Task from the UI thread without blocking it, I want to note that it is possible to implement a TaskScheduler where if you await on a Task, you don’t block your thread or have it go idle, instead you let your thread pick another Task that is waiting for execution. When I was backporting Tasks for .NET 2.0 I experimented with this.
What is an example of a truly asynchronous method and how would they actually work? Are those limited to I/O operations which take advantage of some hardware capabilities so no thread is ever blocked?
You seem to confuse asynchronous with not blocking a thread. If what you want is an example of asynchronous operations in .NET that do not require blocking a thread, a way to do it that you may find easy to grasp is to use continuations instead of await. And for the continuations that you need to run on the UI thread, you can use TaskScheduler.FromCurrentSynchronizationContext.
Do not implement fancy spin waiting. And by that I mean using a Timer, Application.Idle or anything like that.
When you use async you are telling the compiler to rewrite the code of the method in a way that allows breaking it. The result is similar to continuations, with a much more convenient syntax. When the thread reaches an await the Task will be scheduled, and the thread is free to continue after the current async invocation (out of the method). When the Task is done, the continuation (after the await) is scheduled.
For the UI thread this means that once it reaches await, it is free to continue to process messages. Once the awaited Task is done, the continuation (after the await) will be scheduled. As a result, reaching await doesn’t imply to block the thread.
Yet blindly adding async and await won’t fix all your problems.
I submit to you an experiment. Get a new Windows Forms application, drop in a Button and a TextBox, and add the following code:
private async void button1_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
await WorkAsync(5000);
textBox1.Text = #"DONE";
}
private async Task WorkAsync(int milliseconds)
{
Thread.Sleep(milliseconds);
}
It blocks the UI. What happens is that, as mentioned earlier, await automatically uses the SynchronizationContext of the caller thread. In this case, that is the UI thread. Therefore, WorkAsync will run on the UI thread.
This is what happens:
The UI threads gets the click message and calls the click event handler
In the click event handler, the UI thread reaches await WorkAsync(5000)
WorkAsync(5000) (and scheduling its continuation) is scheduled to run on the current synchronization context, which is the UI thread synchronization context… meaning that it posts a message to execute it
The UI thread is now free to process further messages
The UI thread picks the message to execute WorkAsync(5000) and schedule its continuation
The UI thread calls WorkAsync(5000) with continuation
In WorkAsync, the UI thread runs Thread.Sleep. The UI is now irresponsive for 5 seconds.
The continuation schedules the rest of the click event handler to run, this is done by posting another message for the UI thread
The UI thread is now free to process further messages
The UI thread picks the message to continue in the click event handler
The UI thread updates the textbox
The result is synchronous execution, with overhead.
Yes, you should use Task.Delay instead. That is not the point; consider Sleep a stand in for some computation. The point is that just using async and await everywhere won't give you an application that is automatically parallel. It is much better to pick what do you want to run on a background thread (e.g. on the ThreadPool) and what do you want to run on the UI thread.
Now, try the following code:
private async void button1_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
await Task.Run(() => Work(5000));
textBox1.Text = #"DONE";
}
private void Work(int milliseconds)
{
Thread.Sleep(milliseconds);
}
You will find that await does not block the UI. This is because in this case Thread.Sleep is now running on the ThreadPool thanks to Task.Run. And thanks to button1_Click being async, once the code reaches await the UI thread is free to continue working. After the Task is done, the code will resume after the await thanks to the compiler rewriting the method to allow precisely that.
This is what happens:
The UI threads gets the click message and calls the click event handler
In the click event handler, the UI thread reaches await Task.Run(() => Work(5000))
Task.Run(() => Work(5000)) (and scheduling its continuation) is scheduled to run on the current synchronization context, which is the UI thread synchronization context… meaning that it posts a message to execute it
The UI thread is now free to process further messages
The UI thread picks the message to execute Task.Run(() => Work(5000)) and schedule its continuation when done
The UI thread calls Task.Run(() => Work(5000)) with continuation, this will run on the ThreadPool
The UI thread is now free to process further messages
When the ThreadPool finishes, the continuation will schedule the rest of the click event handler to run, this is done by posting another message for the UI thread. When the UI thread picks the message to continue in the click event handler it will updates the textbox.
Here's asynchronous code which shows how async / await allows code to block and release control to another flow, then resume control but not needing a thread.
public static async Task<string> Foo()
{
Console.WriteLine("In Foo");
await Task.Yield();
Console.WriteLine("I'm Back");
return "Foo";
}
static void Main(string[] args)
{
var t = new Task(async () =>
{
Console.WriteLine("Start");
var f = Foo();
Console.WriteLine("After Foo");
var r = await f;
Console.WriteLine(r);
});
t.RunSynchronously();
Console.ReadLine();
}
So it's that releasing of control and resynching when you want results that's key with async/await ( which works well with threading )
NOTE: No Threads were blocked in the making of this code :)
I think sometimes the confusion might come from "Tasks" which doesn't mean something running on its own thread. It just means a thing to do, async / await allows tasks to be broken up into stages and coordinate those various stages into a flow.
It's kind of like cooking, you follow the recipe. You need to do all the prep work before assembling the dish for cooking. So you turn on the oven, start cutting things, grating things, etc. Then you await the temp of oven and await the prep work. You could do it by yourself swapping between tasks in a way that seems logical (tasks / async / await), but you can get someone else to help grate cheese while you chop carrots (threads) to get things done faster.
Stephen's answer is already great, so I'm not going to repeat what he said; I've done my fair share of repeating the same arguments many times on Stack Overflow (and elsewhere).
Instead, let me focus on one important abstract things about asynchronous code: it's not an absolute qualifier. There is no point in saying a piece of code is asynchronous - it's always asynchronous with respect to something else. This is quite important.
The purpose of await is to build synchronous workflows on top of asynchronous operations and some connecting synchronous code. Your code appears perfectly synchronous1 to the code itself.
var a = await A();
await B(a);
The ordering of events is specified by the await invocations. B uses the return value of A, which means A must have run before B. The method containing this code has a synchronous workflow, and the two methods A and B are synchronous with respect to each other.
This is very useful, because synchronous workflows are usually easier to think about, and more importantly, a lot of workflows simply are synchronous. If B needs the result of A to run, it must run after A2. If you need to make an HTTP request to get the URL for another HTTP request, you must wait for the first request to complete; it has nothing to do with thread/task scheduling. Perhaps we could call this "inherent synchronicity", apart from "accidental synchronicity" where you force order on things that do not need to be ordered.
You say:
In my mind, since I do mainly UI dev, async code is code that does not run on the UI thread, but on some other thread.
You're describing code that runs asynchronously with respect to the UI. That is certainly a very useful case for asynchrony (people don't like UI that stops responding). But it's just a specific case of a more general principle - allowing things to happen out of order with respect to one another. Again, it's not an absolute - you want some events to happen out of order (say, when the user drags the window or the progress bar changes, the window should still redraw), while others must not happen out of order (the Process button must not be clicked before the Load action finishes). await in this use case isn't that different from using Application.DoEvents in principle - it introduces many of the same problems and benefits.
This is also the part where the original quote gets interesting. The UI needs a thread to be updated. That thread invokes an event handler, which may be using await. Does it mean that the line where await is used will allow the UI to update itself in response to user input? No.
First, you need to understand that await uses its argument, just as if it were a method call. In my sample, A must have already been invoked before the code generated by await can do anything, including "releasing control back to the UI loop". The return value of A is Task<T> instead of just T, representing a "possible value in the future" - and await-generated code checks to see if the value is already there (in which case it just continues on the same thread) or not (which means we get to release the thread back to the UI loop). But in either case, the Task<T> value itself must have been returned from A.
Consider this implementation:
public async Task<int> A()
{
Thread.Sleep(1000);
return 42;
}
The caller needs A to return a value (a task of int); since there's no awaits in the method, that means the return 42;. But that cannot happen before the sleep finishes, because the two operations are synchronous with respect to the thread. The caller thread will be blocked for a second, regardless of whether it uses await or not - the blocking is in A() itself, not await theTaskResultOfA.
In contrast, consider this:
public async Task<int> A()
{
await Task.Delay(1000);
return 42;
}
As soon as the execution gets to the await, it sees that the task being awaited isn't finished yet and returns control back to its caller; and the await in the caller consequently returns control back to its caller. We've managed to make some of the code asynchronous with respect to the UI. The synchronicity between the UI thread and A was accidental, and we removed it.
The important part here is: there's no way to distinguish between the two implementations from the outside without inspecting the code. Only the return type is part of the method signature - it doesn't say the method will execute asynchronously, only that it may. This may be for any number of good reasons, so there's no point in fighting it - for example, there's no point in breaking the thread of execution when the result is already available:
var responseTask = GetAsync("http://www.google.com");
// Do some CPU intensive task
ComputeAllTheFuzz();
response = await responseTask;
We need to do some work. Some events can run asynchronously with respect to others (in this case, ComputeAllTheFuzz is independent of the HTTP request) and are asynchronous. But at some point, we need to get back to a synchronous workflow (for example, something that requires both the result of ComputeAllTheFuzz and the HTTP request). That's the await point, which synchronizes the execution again (if you had multiple asynchronous workflows, you'd use something like Task.WhenAll). However, if the HTTP request managed to complete before the computation, there's no point in releasing control at the await point - we can simply continue on the same thread. There's been no waste of the CPU - no blocking of the thread; it does useful CPU work. But we didn't give any opportunity for the UI to update.
This is of course why this pattern is usually avoided in more general asynchronous methods. It is useful for some uses of asynchronous code (avoiding wasting threads and CPU time), but not others (keeping the UI responsive). If you expect such a method to keep the UI responsive, you're not going to be happy with the result. But if you use it as part of a web service, for example, it will work great - the focus there is on avoiding wasting threads, not keeping the UI responsive (that's already provided by asynchronously invoking the service endpoint - there's no benefit from doing the same thing again on the service side).
In short, await allows you to write code that is asynchronous with respect to its caller. It doesn't invoke a magical power of asynchronicity, it isn't asynchronous with respect to everything, it doesn't prevent you from using the CPU or blocking threads. It just gives you the tools to easily make a synchronous workflow out of asynchronous operations, and present part of the whole workflow as asynchronous with respect to its caller.
Let's consider an UI event handler. If the individual asynchronous operations happen to not need a thread to execute (e.g. asynchronous I/O), part of the asynchronous method may allow other code to execute on the original thread (and the UI stays responsive in those parts). When the operation needs the CPU/thread again, it may or may not require the original thread to continue the work. If it does, the UI will be blocked again for the duration of the CPU work; if it doesn't (the awaiter specifies this using ConfigureAwait(false)), the UI code will run in parallel. Assuming there's enough resources to handle both, of course. If you need the UI to stay responsive at all times, you cannot use the UI thread for any execution long enough to be noticeable - even if that means you have to wrap an unreliable "usually asynchronous, but sometimes blocks for a few seconds" async method in a Task.Run. There's costs and benefits to both approaches - it's a trade-off, as with all engineering :)
Of course, perfect as far as the abstraction holds - every abstraction leaks, and there's plenty of leaks in await and other approaches to asynchronous execution.
A sufficiently smart optimizer might allow some part of B to run, up to the point where the return value of A is actually needed; this is what your CPU does with normal "synchronous" code (Out of order execution). Such optimizations must preserve the appearance of synchronicity, though - if the CPU misjudges the ordering of operations, it must discard the results and present a correct ordering.
What is difference between the below
ThreadPool.QueueUserWorkItem
vs
Task.Factory.StartNew
If the above code is called 500 times for some long running task, does it mean all the thread pool threads will be taken up?
Or will TPL (2nd option) be smart enough to just take up threads less or equal to number of processors?
If you're going to start a long-running task with TPL, you should specify TaskCreationOptions.LongRunning, which will mean it doesn't schedule it on the thread-pool. (EDIT: As noted in comments, this is a scheduler-specific decision, and isn't a hard and fast guarantee, but I'd hope that any sensible production scheduler would avoid scheduling long-running tasks on a thread pool.)
You definitely shouldn't schedule a large number of long-running tasks on the thread pool yourself. I believe that these days the default size of the thread pool is pretty large (because it's often abused in this way) but fundamentally it shouldn't be used like this.
The point of the thread pool is to avoid short tasks taking a large hit from creating a new thread, compared with the time they're actually running. If the task will be running for a long time, the impact of creating a new thread will be relatively small anyway - and you don't want to end up potentially running out of thread pool threads. (It's less likely now, but I did experience it on earlier versions of .NET.)
Personally if I had the option, I'd definitely use TPL on the grounds that the Task API is pretty nice - but do remember to tell TPL that you expect the task to run for a long time.
EDIT: As noted in comments, see also the PFX team's blog post on choosing between the TPL and the thread pool:
In conclusion, I’ll reiterate what the CLR team’s ThreadPool developer has already stated:
Task is now the preferred way to queue work to the thread pool.
EDIT: Also from comments, don't forget that TPL allows you to use custom schedulers, if you really want to...
No, there is no extra cleverness added in the way the ThreadPool threads are utilized, by using the Task.Factory.StartNew method (or the more modern Task.Run method). Calling Task.Factory.StartNew 500 times (with long running tasks) is certainly going to saturate the ThreadPool, and will keep it saturated for a long time. Which is not a good situation to have, because a saturated ThreadPool affects negatively any other independent callbacks, timer events, async continuations etc that may also be active during this 500-launched-tasks period.
The Task.Factory.StartNew method schedules the execution of the supplied Action on the TaskScheduler.Current, which by default is the TaskScheduler.Default, which is the internal ThreadPoolTaskScheduler class. Here is the implementation of the ThreadPoolTaskScheduler.QueueTask method:
protected internal override void QueueTask(Task task)
{
if ((task.Options & TaskCreationOptions.LongRunning) != 0)
{
// Run LongRunning tasks on their own dedicated thread.
Thread thread = new Thread(s_longRunningThreadWork);
thread.IsBackground = true; // Keep this thread from blocking process shutdown
thread.Start(task);
}
else
{
// Normal handling for non-LongRunning tasks.
bool forceToGlobalQueue = ((task.Options & TaskCreationOptions.PreferFairness) != 0);
ThreadPool.UnsafeQueueCustomWorkItem(task, forceToGlobalQueue);
}
}
As you can see the execution of the task is scheduled on the ThreadPool anyway. The ThreadPool.UnsafeQueueCustomWorkItem is an internal method of the ThreadPool class, and has some nuances (bool forceGlobal) that are not publicly exposed. But there is nothing in it that changes the behavior of the ThreadPool when it becomes saturated¹. This behavior, currently, is not particularly sophisticated either. The thread-injection algorithm just injects one new thread in the pool every 500 msec, until the saturation incident ends.
¹ The ThreadPool is said to be saturated when the demand for work surpasses the current availability of threads, and the threshold SetMinThreads above which new threads are no longer created on demand has been reached.
In C# 4.0, we have Task in the System.Threading.Tasks namespace. What is the true difference between Thread and Task. I did some sample program(help taken from MSDN) for my own sake of learning with
Parallel.Invoke
Parallel.For
Parallel.ForEach
but have many doubts as the idea is not so clear.
I have initially searched in Stackoverflow for a similar type of question but may be with this question title I was not able to get the same. If anyone knows about the same type of question being posted here earlier, kindly give the reference of the link.
In computer science terms, a Task is a future or a promise. (Some people use those two terms synonymously, some use them differently, nobody can agree on a precise definition.) Basically, a Task<T> "promises" to return you a T, but not right now honey, I'm kinda busy, why don't you come back later?
A Thread is a way of fulfilling that promise. But not every Task needs a brand-new Thread. (In fact, creating a thread is often undesirable, because doing so is much more expensive than re-using an existing thread from the thread pool. More on that in a moment.) If the value you are waiting for comes from the filesystem or a database or the network, then there is no need for a thread to sit around and wait for the data when it can be servicing other requests. Instead, the Task might register a callback to receive the value(s) when they're ready.
In particular, the Task does not say why it is that it takes such a long time to return the value. It might be that it takes a long time to compute, or it might be that it takes a long time to fetch. Only in the former case would you use a Thread to run a Task. (In .NET, threads are freaking expensive, so you generally want to avoid them as much as possible and really only use them if you want to run multiple heavy computations on multiple CPUs. For example, in Windows, a thread weighs 12 KiByte (I think), in Linux, a thread weighs as little as 4 KiByte, in Erlang/BEAM even just 400 Byte. In .NET, it's 1 MiByte!)
A task is something you want done.
A thread is one of the many possible workers which performs that task.
In .NET 4.0 terms, a Task represents an asynchronous operation. Thread(s) are used to complete that operation by breaking the work up into chunks and assigning to separate threads.
Thread
The bare metal thing, you probably don't need to use it, you probably can use a LongRunning task and take the benefits from the TPL - Task Parallel Library, included in .NET Framework 4 (february, 2002) and above (also .NET Core).
Tasks
Abstraction above the Threads. It uses the thread pool (unless you specify the task as a LongRunning operation, if so, a new thread is created under the hood for you).
Thread Pool
As the name suggests: a pool of threads. This is the .NET framework handling a limited number of threads for you. Why? Because opening 100 threads to execute expensive CPU operations on a Processor with just 8 cores definitely is not a good idea. The framework will maintain this pool for you, reusing the threads (not creating/killing them at each operation), and executing some of them in parallel, in a way that your CPU will not burn.
OK, but when to use each one?
In resume: always use tasks.
Task is an abstraction, so it is a lot easier to use. I advise you to always try to use tasks and if you face some problem that makes you need to handle a thread by yourself (probably 1% of the time) then use threads.
BUT be aware that:
I/O Bound: For I/O bound operations (database calls, read/write files, APIs calls, etc) avoid using normal tasks, use LongRunning tasks (or threads if you need to). Because using tasks would lead you to a thread pool with a few threads busy and a lot of other tasks waiting for its turn to take the pool.
CPU Bound: For CPU bound operations just use the normal tasks (that internally will use the thread pool) and be happy.
In addition to above points, it would be good to know that:
A task is by default a background task. You cannot have a foreground task. On the other hand a thread can be background or foreground (Use IsBackground property to change the behavior).
Tasks created in thread pool recycle the threads which helps save resources. So in most cases tasks should be your default choice.
If the operations are quick, it is much better to use a task instead of thread. For long running operations, tasks do not provide much advantages over threads.
A Task can be seen as a convenient and easy way to execute something asynchronously and in parallel.
Normally a Task is all you need, I cannot remember if I have ever used a thread for anything other than experimentation.
You can accomplish the same thing, with a thread (with lots of effort) as you can with a task.
Thread
int result = 0;
Thread thread = new System.Threading.Thread(() => {
result = 1;
});
thread.Start();
thread.Join();
Console.WriteLine(result); //is 1
Task
int result = await Task.Run(() => {
return 1;
});
Console.WriteLine(result); //is 1
A task will by default use the Threadpool, which saves resources as creating threads can be expensive. You can see a Task as a higher level abstraction upon threads.
As this article points out, Task provides the following powerful features over Thread.
Tasks are tuned for leveraging multicore processors.
If the system has multiple Tasks then it makes use of the CLR thread pool
internally, and so does not have the overhead associated with creating
a dedicated thread using the Thread. Also reduces the context
switching time among multiple threads.
Task can return a result. There is no direct mechanism to return the result from thread.
Wait on a set of Tasks, without a signaling construct.
We can chain Tasks together to execute one after the other.
Establish a parent/child relationship when one task is started from
another task.
A child Task Exception can propagate to parent task.
Tasks support cancellation through the use of cancellation tokens.
Asynchronous implementation is easy in Task, using async and
await keywords.
I usually use Task to interact with Winforms and simple background worker to make it not freeze the UI. Here is an example of when I prefer using Task.
private async void buttonDownload_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
buttonDownload.Enabled = false;
await Task.Run(() => {
using (var client = new WebClient())
{
client.DownloadFile("http://example.com/file.mpeg", "file.mpeg");
}
})
buttonDownload.Enabled = true;
}
VS
private void buttonDownload_Click(object sender, EventArgs e)
{
buttonDownload.Enabled = false;
Thread t = new Thread(() =>
{
using (var client = new WebClient())
{
client.DownloadFile("http://example.com/file.mpeg", "file.mpeg");
}
this.Invoke((MethodInvoker)delegate()
{
buttonDownload.Enabled = true;
});
});
t.IsBackground = true;
t.Start();
}
the difference is you don't need to use MethodInvoker and shorter code.
You can use Task to specify what you want to do then attach that Task with a Thread. so that Task would be executed in that newly made Thread rather than on the GUI thread.
Use Task with the TaskFactory.StartNew(Action action). In here you execute a delegate so if you didn't use any thread it would be executed in the same thread (GUI thread). If you mention a thread you can execute this Task in a different thread. This is an unnecessary work cause you can directly execute the delegate or attach that delegate to a thread and execute that delegate in that thread. So don't use it. it's just unnecessary. If you intend to optimize your software this is a good candidate to be removed.
**Please note that the Action is a delegate.
Task is like an operation that you want to perform. Thread helps to manage those operation through multiple process nodes. Task is a lightweight option as Threading can lead to complex code management.
I suggest you read from MSDN (best in world) always Task
Thread